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Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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I also discovered that I couldn't use my Canon SLR to record more than 30 minutes of video continuously. The problem however wasn't Canon, but that I lived in a region (EU) that would have imposed a customs tariff on cameras that could do that, but by keeping it under that, the camera would be classed as a 'stills' camera and so was therefore exempt. Admittedly this is different from the case in the article - but it…

It would likely overheat anyway hah. Old Sony cameras have the same restrictions.

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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post #27

In case you are considering Nikon as an alternative, their Webcam Utility might be free, but it doesn't work on the latest version of macOS. There are 3rd party utilities (paid), but I had trouble with autofocus when I tried them. I wish camera manufacturers put half as much effort into usability as smartphone companies. Why does a camera need drivers to be recognized as a webcam at all? Why doesn't my 2000€ camera c…

Modern Sony cameras can be used as webcam without any software. Just plug in, select usb streaming, and done.

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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post #4

> However, Canon is a hardware company, not a software company, That probably makes it pretty easy to reverse engineer their software to bypass the restrictions.

There are things we could do with our time...

I suppose I'm glad some people find time to do this.

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bit of a weird argument considering you can use other brand cameras as webcams without any third party software. At least, all my Sony cameras can just be plugged in using USB and it works immediately. No drivers required.

Are you sure? The article talks about using it as a webcam and none of the Sony gear I've used supports that (A6500, A7 I/RI/II/SII/III/RIII/SIII). They did make the "Imaging Edge Webcam" program, I think some time during the pandemic, but AFAIK it's just a PTP preview to webcam driver, so the quality is pretty terrible and you can do that with OBS+gphoto2.

A7RV + A6700 here. If you plug in a USB cable, it shows the usual "usb selection screen", but it includes a "USB streaming" option. It works immediately, flawlessly, on windows and macOS. For remote shooting, there's still the "PC remote" option.

My older Sony cameras (A6300 is my newest "old" Sony camera) don't have the feature (unless you use that terrible software you mentioned) Im surprised to read that even the reasonably modern A7SIII doesn't support it. It must be one of the last models without USB streaming support.

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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post #27

In case you are considering Nikon as an alternative, their Webcam Utility might be free, but it doesn't work on the latest version of macOS. There are 3rd party utilities (paid), but I had trouble with autofocus when I tried them. I wish camera manufacturers put half as much effort into usability as smartphone companies. Why does a camera need drivers to be recognized as a webcam at all? Why doesn't my 2000€ camera c…

Wow, you made me go check and Nikon still hasn't fixed the software. Supported OS:

macOS Ventura version 13 macOS Monterey version 12 macOS Big Sur version 11

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

#37
> I've tried this at first in 2024 with macOS 14, which did not work.

Why not blame Apple for not providing drivers? It is pretty normal in Linux to check hardware compatibility. You mainly buy hardware with good software support.

Apple does not support this camera, so do not buy it!

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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post #27

In case you are considering Nikon as an alternative, their Webcam Utility might be free, but it doesn't work on the latest version of macOS. There are 3rd party utilities (paid), but I had trouble with autofocus when I tried them. I wish camera manufacturers put half as much effort into usability as smartphone companies. Why does a camera need drivers to be recognized as a webcam at all? Why doesn't my 2000€ camera c…

Modern Sony cameras can be used as webcam without any software. Just plug in, select usb streaming, and done.

Sonys are some of the better cameras for software, but that's a low bar. I love my Nikons for picture taking though.

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure this is the case, but to play devils advocate - Sony themselves might have to license it from a third party

There is no reason to bend over backwards to make up excuses for bad behaviour.

It's just experience from a video monitoring project we made for a Telco operator - we had to pay up quite a few JPEG related tech, just to get a certification. Even despite that tech being free.

Historically video related field was one of the most patent and license encumbered. That's why AV1 exists.

Re: Canon wants us to pay for using our own camera as a webcam

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post #11

Why $6,2999 when the article says he payed around $900?

> Why $6,2999 when the article says he payed around $900?

In the fifth paragraph:

“Admittedly, it did not cost me the $6300 from the article's title, much closer to $900. Nonetheless, everything I'm describing translates to every other Canon camera model!”

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