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Re: Starship Flight 7

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Looks like second stage broke up over Caribbean, videos of the debris (as seen from ground): https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662?t=HdHF... https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800 https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115 Moment of the breakup: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE52_hVSeQz/

What a strangely beautiful sight. While I was excited to see ship land, I'm also happy I get to see videos of this!

Yes, both spectacular and beautiful. I guess Starship can now say what the legendary comedy actress (and sex symbol) of early cinema Mae West said:

"When I'm good... I'm very good. But when I'm bad... I'm even better." :-)

Combined with another tower catch, that's two spectacular shows for the price of one. Hopefully the onboard diagnostic telemetry immediately prior to the RUD is enough to identify the root cause so it can be corrected.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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post #85

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What a strangely beautiful sight. While I was excited to see ship land, I'm also happy I get to see videos of this!

As long as the debris has no effect wherever it lands, I agree with you

More as long as there were no humans onboard

Re: Starship Flight 7

#294

I like how chopsticks catch (a very impressive feat) completely distracts everyone from totally fucked timeline and already spent budget on mars mission. Its like any criticism is being drowned in loud cheers. Only time will tell, but I hope I will be wrong on this one

I actually get this take, but for me it's the ultimate distraction and a way to legitimize the CEOs rubbish behavior.

"How can he be wrong when he is a genius and can land a rocket in two chopsticks?"

Re: Starship Flight 7

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I feel like it should be updated. When it was written it wasn't like every Musk could launch high-orbit rockets on sundays. Only actual states did.

States can set whatever rules they like internally. The US can make SpaceX pay them back if they want.

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Re: Starship Flight 7

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post #286

I absolutely cannot relate to the HN excitement over rockets. What is the point? What are we going to do with them? It feels like half religion half misplaced techno-positivism. (Also a person who actively platforms outspoken neo-nazis runs the company that is launching them)

The reason is pretty simple. The technology you are using right now, was created with knowledge that was obtained in orbit.

If you use GPS, you are inherently reliant on satellites, delivered with rockets.

Some of our resource shortages can be covered via resource acquisition in space.

Pushing the space frontier, is far more interesting and important, than mobile phone screen size, or fidelity.

It opens an entire new area to the sciences.

Also big explody tube warms the cockles of my heart.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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post #286

I absolutely cannot relate to the HN excitement over rockets. What is the point? What are we going to do with them? It feels like half religion half misplaced techno-positivism. (Also a person who actively platforms outspoken neo-nazis runs the company that is launching them)

Rockets are good. They give us hope that one day we ll explore the stars. Let people enjoy the small wins.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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I take it if SpaceX debris hit and destroyed a boat the owner can claim damages from SpaceX? Does international space law allow for this?

It's probably similar to if a US ship crashed into your yacht.

Rules of the water says smaller ship yields right of way to bigger ship. Sounds like you screwed up if your yacht got hit by a bigger ship. Of course that applies when the vessels are not tied up. If a big ship his a docked boat, that's an entirely different scenario

Re: Starship Flight 7

#299

That "landing" (is it still considered a landing if it's chopsticked a few meters before it touches the ground?) is so unnatural it almost looks fake. So big and unimaginable that it feels like watching fx on a movie! The close-up camera right after was interesting, I thought it captured on the grid fins, but it looks like there are two small purpose-built knobs for that. The times we live in!

IIRC, the grid fins are not strong enough to support the rocket, and reinforcing them would add too much weight to the vehicle. The plan is to catch the second stage the same way, and the starship in flight now is the first to have mockup pins to test the aerodynamics and see if they cause issues during reentry.

It seems like they'll need a lot of different vehicles to catch the second stage given the number of pieces I saw in the video.
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