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Re: Starship Flight 7

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Inadvertently perfect timing for this footage. Glowing and backlit by the setting sun, against clear and already darkening evening sky... couldn't plan the shot any better if you tried. Let's hope no debris came down on anyone or anything apart from open water.

I take it if SpaceX debris hit and destroyed a boat the owner can claim damages from SpaceX? Does international space law allow for this?

It's probably similar to if a US ship crashed into your yacht.

Re: Starship Flight 7

#182
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...which has nothing to do with NASA the US government organization, or the NSF (FYI). It's just some independent streamers who apparently know you can't get trademark claims against you by the federal government.

Spoken like someone who is generating their opinion from their channel name alone. Those "independent streamers" provide live launch streams with multiple feeds using their own equipment and to top it off they have numerous very knowledgeable hosts for all their streams. At this point I suspect they are covering every US based launch from all the major players. Hell, today they broadcasted both the New Glenn and Star…

They should rename themselves NSF, short for NSF Space Flight.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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This NASASpaceflight stream is up now: https://www.youtube.com/live/3nM3vGdanpw

...which has nothing to do with NASA the US government organization, or the NSF (FYI). It's just some independent streamers who apparently know you can't get trademark claims against you by the federal government.

NASA allows them to place cameras as media on nasa property some are even permanent. and are credentialed media for launches. so I am guessing NASA is okay with it.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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Looks like work of the Flight Termination System. Something measurable had to go very wrong.

While the telemetry was still going, you could see Ship engines going out one by one. Earlier when there was video there was what looked like flames visible inside one of the flap hinges, definitely shouldn't be there on ascent. Presumably something failed internally and caused the Ship to shut down before reaching target trajectory, at which point either FTS or the failure itself caused it to blow up, as seen on the…

On the NSF youtube channel they pointed out that at some point the methane indicator started decreasing much faster than the LOX indicator, which points to some sort of leak. It would explain why the engines started to shut down.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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Given that the engine telemetry shown on the broadcast showed the engines going out one by one over a period of some seconds, I could easily imagine some sort of catastrophic failure on a single engine that cascaded.

It could be many things, plumbing to the engines, tank leak, ect. You could see fire on the control flap actuators, so the ship interior was engulfed in fire at the same time the first engine was out.

Yeah, most likely engine bay fire taking out systems one by one. Would be interesting to compare the telemetry cutoff with the video of explosion if possible. That could indicate if the fire even triggered an explosion, flight termination being activated or just reentry heating making the tanks explode.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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> They burned billions of public funds, literally.

Wrong. Public funds are not paying for Starship development but for the HLS variant development, at significantly lower cost than the HLS lander from Blue Origin. Which likely still doesn't cover the entire funding even for Blue Origin. A lot is paid by those space companies themselves. A NASA developed lander (Altair from the Constellation program), would probably have cost around an order of magnitude more.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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What a strangely beautiful sight. While I was excited to see ship land, I'm also happy I get to see videos of this!

As long as the debris has no effect wherever it lands, I agree with you

A lot of flights seem to be diverting to avoid it...

https://bsky.app/profile/flightradar24.com/post/3lfvhpgmqqc2...

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