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Re: Starship Flight 7

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Looks like second stage broke up over Caribbean, videos of the debris (as seen from ground): https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662?t=HdHF... https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800 https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115 Moment of the breakup: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE52_hVSeQz/

The last one is stage separation, not an explosion. You can clearly see the "exploded" rocket continuing to fly afterwards.

Nope. That's definitely an explosion (source: I'm in the rocket business). However it may not be an explosion of the whole stage. Probably of the engine section.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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What's the criticism exactly? Like I don't get your point? Yes they are behind on timelines and on Mars, does that mean that we should post reddit-tier cynical comments every time about that? I'm not saying that you're doing that, it's more that I don't get why this is surprising. And on the other hand, it's also funny to see how "skeptics" (whatever that means in this case) dismiss or belittle achievements that were…

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Re: Starship Flight 7

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Looks like second stage broke up over Caribbean, videos of the debris (as seen from ground): https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662?t=HdHF... https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800 https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115 Moment of the breakup: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE52_hVSeQz/

Inadvertently perfect timing for this footage. Glowing and backlit by the setting sun, against clear and already darkening evening sky... couldn't plan the shot any better if you tried. Let's hope no debris came down on anyone or anything apart from open water.

I take it if SpaceX debris hit and destroyed a boat the owner can claim damages from SpaceX?

Does international space law allow for this?

Re: Starship Flight 7

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That sounds... unlikely, to say the least. The ship blew up at 145km altitude over Turks and Caicos. Debris would fall thousands of kilometers to the east, if anything survives re-entry. EDIT: at these speeds, over 20000km/h, the falling debris will travel a very long way before coming down. For satellite re-entry, the usual estimated ground contact point is something like 8000km+ downrange [1]. There is little chanc…

Im not sure what part you are skeptical about. The debris videos filmed at Turks and Caicos are about 800km east of the explosion video in the Bahamas. They appear to be real. Still high but coming down fast. Airspace is big, but I wouldn't want to fly a Jet with hundreds of people near it either. I imagine aviation radar towers would only have the most limited data as the event unfolded.

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Re: Starship Flight 7

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Given that the engine telemetry shown on the broadcast showed the engines going out one by one over a period of some seconds, I could easily imagine some sort of catastrophic failure on a single engine that cascaded.

It could be many things, plumbing to the engines, tank leak, ect. You could see fire on the control flap actuators, so the ship interior was engulfed in fire at the same time the first engine was out.

Given the huge spread of the debris, it must have been a decent sized boom, no? I mean that's got to be 10's of miles wide in this video.

https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115

Re: Starship Flight 7

#178
Beefed it the day after New Glenn makes orbit on the first try. Different philosophies, I know, but if I were at SpaceX I would be pretty unhappy right now.

Re: Starship Flight 7

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I miss the time before X broke so many things, like official streams being on Twitch where I've already paid for ad free viewing.

My big gripe is that X videos don't seem to support Chromecast at all. I used to watch SpaceX launches on my TV :(

There is an Android TV App apparently: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.x.xtv

Re: Starship Flight 7

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The last one is stage separation, not an explosion. You can clearly see the "exploded" rocket continuing to fly afterwards.

That's for sure not stage separation, that's an explosion from the FTS rupturing the ship tanks.

If it was the FTS wouldn't the flight control systems send a message back to the ground saying "things are going sideways here, FTS Activated"
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