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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by jacobgkau »

pjmlp wrote: post #374
Hasu wrote: post #267

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Tears of the Kingdom is far from the only Switch game with performance issues. Off the top of my head, the newest Pokemon games (and the next newest, to a lesser extent) run like shit on the Switch. I've heard complaints about other games too. It was underpowered when it was released in 2016, so it really shouldn't be that surprising.

Again, from how many? And if we are going to start counting frame drops as argument against focusing on gameplay instead of triangles per second, there is no safe platform then.

It's not "safe from any frame drops" vs. "has frame drops." How often they drop to what framerate for how long is what makes up the experience. (Similarly, I don't need games on my Switch to look as high-fidelity as my 4090 renders them on my PC, but more textures/reflections would still be welcome over less.)

That's why I agree with what some others in the thread have said-- we'll need to wait for either numbers or, absolutely, some real-world experience to know how big of an improvement we can actually expect to get from an upgrade.

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Post by Neonlicht »

dmonitor wrote: post #707
runevault wrote: post #688

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Personally I'd say both are true. They won the generation, but they did so by not bothering to fight directly with Playstation and Xbox. By basically ignoring them and having a distinct identity they won.

This framing only highlights either A. Sony has an amazing marketing strategy where they can paint their #1 competitor as not even a competitor. B. Xbox has a terrible product direction, where they are trying (failing) to beat Sony at being Sony instead of looking at the gaming industry and trying to create a product people want.

How is the Switch a competitor when it doesn't even play most games that you can find on Playstation or Steam?

I think Nintendo is- respectfully- in their own lane.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by jacobgkau »

Dansvidania wrote: post #154
ErneX wrote: post #133

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They supposedly had this console ready to ship a year or even two ago. Rumor is the reason they are releasing it this year is to have a decent catalogue of games lined up for launch and launch window.

which makes complete sense, no?

Aside from missing out on the last software dev cycle's worth of hardware updates, unless they've continued to bump the specs to match what's become available in the meantime. (I know the line does need to be drawn somewhere.)

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Post by Izkata »

Phrodo_00 wrote: post #751
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #568

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Scarlet/Violet look atrocious even next to other Switch Pokemon games. The art direction wasn't great, and it was a really poor game technically. https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-pokemon-scarle... Can't find it right now, but someone did some side by side comparisons of Scarlet/Violet next to similar Breath of the Wild scenes, and it's night and day.

Neither generation of Switch Pokemon games looked or performed decent, but I guess bad performance is a gamefreak constant since at least the 3DS

I assume you're referring to Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet, but Legends: Arceus is also officially part of the main series. Offhand don't remember performance issues in that one.

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Post by pavon »

tshaddox wrote: post #664
duxup wrote: post #8

I was pretty skeptical about the original Switch but bought it on a whim after being laid off. It quickly became one of my favorite gaming consoles. The ability to play anywhere didn’t seem like a big deal until I could do it. I have zero interest in being tied to a single spot like the traditional console experience now.

It's fascinating how the Switch can be such a different device for different people. I bought my Switch in 2022 and it has remained exclusively docked under my TV since then. I have yet to even conceive of a scenario in which I would want to play it on the go. Perhaps if I went on long flights more than a couple of times a year? But who am I kidding, I would still read or listen to podcasts on the plane.

The initial reason for me was to play it while others wanted to watch TV. And then once I got used to that, I found myself preferring to play it in other places in the house even when the TV was free - on the porch when the weather is nice, on my comfy reading chair, playing rhythm games on the exercise bike, next to the computer to have quick access to strategy guides, etc.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #706

My concern with this is that the joycob being larger won't fit the hands of younger kids anymore. The switch 1 joycon was the only one that allowed reaching the controller buttons and the stick (while held horizontally) for my 3 years old. All other controllers that exist are too big, clearly nobody tested with young children. And I wish they had names for their arrow buttons, because when held horizontally it makes…

Fair concern, but on the other hand joycons are seriously uncomfortable for people older than that because of how small they are. It seems reasonable for Nintendo to optimize for the common users, not the extreme minority of small children.

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Post by jacobgkau »

klausa wrote: post #640
sefke wrote: post #408

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At least we know for sure that it's backwards compatible with the old Switch.

This has been announced back in November: https://x.com/NintendoCoLtd/status/1853972163033968794 ; though if you're not extremely plugged in, it has been rather easy to miss.

There was still some ambiguity on if it applied to physical games or only downloads. I'm all-digital on my Switch, so it doesn't affect me, but it'll be nice for the physical-only people to know with certainty.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

loudmax wrote: post #97

How do Switch users feel about the joycons? I'm not a gamer, but the original Switch joycons always struck me as overly complicated and expensive. It should be cheaper to manufacture and sell Switches with the controllers attached. Indeed, this is what they did with the Switch Lite. For games that take advantage of joycon functionality, Nintendo could have sold something like an updated Switch version of the Wiimote…

I don't like them. They're too small to be comfortable for use on their own, and all they really enable is motion controls (meh). The pro controller is far superior and is 90% of my switch controller usage.

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Post by MYEUHD »

basfo wrote: post #597
danudey wrote: post #554

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I saw an interesting analysis years ago about whether or not the most powerful console 'won' in each generation (i.e. whether or not being the most powerful console of your generation leads to success). Generally speaking, no, it doesn't actually affect things, and in several cases (e.g. the Game Boy, the Wii, and the Switch come to mind) the objectively 'worse' console (from a tech perspective) was more successful b…

It's interesting how many people see the Switch as being in its own category rather than acknowledging it as the winner of this console generation (which I completely agree it is). Most people think the “console” battle is between PlayStation and Xbox, and that PlayStation is the winner. This is probably a big win for PlayStation’s marketing team.

Due to the switch's low processing power, it can't run many AAA titles (for example Red Dead Redemption 2, Cyberpunk 2077, Call of Duty games etc.)

That's why it's considered its own category.

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