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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by surgical_fire » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:27 PM UTC

wat10000 wrote: post #118

It seems like the days of revolutionary consumer electronics are over. This looks nice, for sure. But it’s really more of the same. Not surprising. It does surprise me that there’s such emphasis on it, though. There’s the name, of course, and then the entire video is based around “it’s the same thing but a little better.” Game console updates used to be big deals. The SNES was a revolution. PS2 was huge. Now… PS5? Wh…

> PS2 was huge

PS2 was literally just an iteration on the PS1. More powerful console, DVD instead of CD, and that was it. Nothing really new there.

Hell, the Switch 2 is more innovative than the PS2 was in terms of iteration on a previous console.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by TingPing » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

joseda-hg wrote: post #108

machinekob wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cloud gaming is good if you live close to the servers and don't care about graphics, but playing with +60-100ms for every action feels very bad. It almost feels like playing on 15-20 fps PC and quality of streaming video is always a problem compared to native quality maybe AV1 will fix it.

I have gigabit, but no servers that are close, it's... rough

Streaming in the same house still isn’t very good. Games are very latency sensitive.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

lexicality wrote: post #176

pjmlp wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The great thing about how Nintendo approaches games is that it is about game design, not triangles per second.

Great in theory, but only really works for first party games and does mean you occasionally end up with unfortunate situations like Tears of the Kingdom where it runs better on an emulator than the actual hardware.

It works for everyone, provided they have the skills.

I have stop buying most AAA games, because they are GB of useless gameplay, or remakes from remakes of remasters, that is better invested into sponsoring indies.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Ecco » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #143

Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.

Oh, sneaky! I fell into the trap without even realizing. Thanks for pointing it out!

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by pebble » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #161

sigmoid10 wrote: post #123

Huh. I guess updated ergonomics / QoL stuff and confirmation of backwards compatibility counts as enough of an update over the last hardware refresh. But zero info on anything that could actually make this worth a buy. Granted, this feels like Nintendo who will do anything to not get dragged into PS/XBOX flops discussions. But without any real upgrade or even games announcements, I suppose most people will keep holdi…

The great thing about how Nintendo approaches games is that it is about game design, not triangles per second.

Coming from a modern console, the first hour of Tears of the Kingdom felt painfully sluggish.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by kreco » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

sigmoid10 wrote: post #123

Huh. I guess updated ergonomics / QoL stuff and confirmation of backwards compatibility counts as enough of an update over the last hardware refresh. But zero info on anything that could actually make this worth a buy. Granted, this feels like Nintendo who will do anything to not get dragged into PS/XBOX flops discussions. But without any real upgrade or even games announcements, I suppose most people will keep holdi…

> But zero info on anything that could actually make this worth a buy.

Obvious answer: no more game released on Switch 1 so you want a Switch 2 if you want to play new games.

That's work well enough for Playstation/Xbox.

The difference with the other consoles mentioned is that it's portable, and the time already made clear (with Switch 1 and Steam Deck) there is a massive need.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by duxup » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

markgreene wrote: post #66

duxup wrote: post #8

I was pretty skeptical about the original Switch but bought it on a whim after being laid off. It quickly became one of my favorite gaming consoles. The ability to play anywhere didn’t seem like a big deal until I could do it. I have zero interest in being tied to a single spot like the traditional console experience now.

cloud gaming has given me this same revelation. It's as portable as a Switch but the gaming experience isn't limited by the hardware in hand. Connectivity is important for the experience, though.

Yeah I gave GeForceNow a run and I really liked it. There are limits but I like just firing up a game regardless of platform.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by dev0p » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #62

basfo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was a new mario kart? it looked like mario kart 8 to me.

A few details are quite different from 8, notably the boost and character animations, it's definitely a new game. Marketing will be difficult, MK8 already peaked graphically and has 96 tracks, and will still work on Switch 2. I hope they'll find real selling points for MK9.

Would have not surprised me if it's actually Mario Kart 8 2. (Technically that's already what Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is, so, actually, it would be Mario Kart 8 3).

I mean, at this point it makes little sense for them to start from scratch, releasing a newer game but with much less than the enormous amount of content provided by MK8D + DLC would seem like a very noticeable downgrade, so just revamping the old one would be a practical move, though I don't think fans would be happy with that.

MK8 was mostly flawless gameplay wise, how can it be improved? But at this point one has no choice but to trust Nintendo's ability to come up with surprises.

There are certainly some ways they can, I'd love to see a 100 man race or something crazy like that.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by The_Colonel » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

systems wrote: post #137

So I can only guess the reason why they didn't mention how much more powerful NS2 is compared to NS1, is because it is not that much more powerful? I would guess only 30 to 50% more powerful

No, it's because Nintendo prides itself to be about games, not about performance.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Dansvidania » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

netcraft wrote: post #173

Have there been any leaks of the price yet? We have gotten so much use out of our original switch I can't really imagine not picking it up, even if only to keep playing the games we already have.

I am sucker for Nintendo stuff. I can't imagine not getting it, but this trailer did not necessarily make me look forward to it more: It got a bit more generic in design, and I don't trust that controller attachment system.