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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by mingus88 »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #123

Huh. I guess updated ergonomics / QoL stuff and confirmation of backwards compatibility counts as enough of an update over the last hardware refresh. But zero info on anything that could actually make this worth a buy. Granted, this feels like Nintendo who will do anything to not get dragged into PS/XBOX flops discussions. But without any real upgrade or even games announcements, I suppose most people will keep holdi…

This is a just first look trailer so yes I think most people have no choice but to hold off on a purchase decision

I saw a larger screen and exclusive titles for the switch 2. As with everything else in gaming I am expecting modest bumps in performance and since this is Nintendo it will sell very well and have Mario and Zelda releases that get 9/10 reviews on all the usual sites.

The gaming industry has been going through these cycles for decades. If you had a previous Nintendo system and still like to play video games, odds are good you’ll end up with one of these sooner or later too.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by senorrib »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #139
nkjoep wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

on the other side, it could be a big plus for new comers into the Nintendo Switch platform

I really wonder how big that market can be. I mean, for people who still haven't gotten a switch or steam deck or anything similar until now, how likely is this going to change their mind?

There’s always someone turning 12.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by sigmoid10 »

eloisant wrote: post #152
sigmoid10 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wonder how big that market can be. I mean, for people who still haven't gotten a switch or steam deck or anything similar until now, how likely is this going to change their mind?

People who started to look when the Switch was already 3-4 years old, and passed because it's underpowered.

People who believe this thing will not be underpowered compared to current gen hardware have obviously not followed Nintendo over the past 25 years.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by RajT88 »

talles wrote: post #100
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #58

I don't like the aesthetic as much as the Switch 1. Looks a little too sleek, too monochrome, not Nintendo-y enough. Other than the splash of color around the thumbsticks it looks like any number of those handheld Steam Deck-alikes that have been coming out. That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

Nintendo is not Nintendo-y enough for a while now. The switch system UI is bland and on launch the gray switch was the one being presented.

Speaking of - does anyone know of an HTPC frontend which duplicates the look and feel of the Wii menu?

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by lexicality »

pjmlp wrote: post #161
sigmoid10 wrote: post #123

Huh. I guess updated ergonomics / QoL stuff and confirmation of backwards compatibility counts as enough of an update over the last hardware refresh. But zero info on anything that could actually make this worth a buy. Granted, this feels like Nintendo who will do anything to not get dragged into PS/XBOX flops discussions. But without any real upgrade or even games announcements, I suppose most people will keep holdi…

The great thing about how Nintendo approaches games is that it is about game design, not triangles per second.

Great in theory, but only really works for first party games and does mean you occasionally end up with unfortunate situations like Tears of the Kingdom where it runs better on an emulator than the actual hardware.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Dansvidania »

eloisant wrote: post #169
richrichardsson wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you believe the leakers [1]: Full specs: CPU: Arm Cortex-A78C 8 cores Unknown L1/L2/L3 cache sizes GPU: Nvidia T239 Ampere 1 Graphics Processing Cluster (GPC) 12 Streaming Multiprocessors (SM) 1534 CUDA cores 6 Texture Processing Clusters (TPC) 48 Gen 3 Tensor cores 2 RTX ray-tracing cores RAM: 12 GB LPDDR5 Handheld Mode: CPU: 998.4 MHz GPU: 561 MHz (~1.72 TFLOPS) Memory Frequency: 4266 MHz Memory Bandwidth: 68.25…

How would that compare to other consoles, like the PS4/PS4 Pro?

I would guess much weaker, but IMO the switch's point is not raw performance but rather innovative gameplay and style

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by gwervc »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #148
ErneX wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They supposedly had this console ready to ship a year or even two ago. Rumor is the reason they are releasing it this year is to have a decent catalogue of games lined up for launch and launch window.

That makes it even weirder why they would only show a few short hints of one possible new Mario Kart game. The original switch reveal had glimpses of new Zelda, Mario and even the first portable version of Skyrim.

It's only the first reveal. I'm sure they'll be raising the hype with game trailers until the release date.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by dcow »

systems wrote: post #137

So I can only guess the reason why they didn't mention how much more powerful NS2 is compared to NS1, is because it is not that much more powerful? I would guess only 30 to 50% more powerful

I’ve heard different leaks to the tune that it is actually significantly more powerful. Rationale being because Nintendo presumably finally needs to take 4k and higher frame rates seriously, and the hardware situation has improved enough for that to be possible under Nintendo’s philosophy (shit hardware with innovative and engaging gameplay). I mean their beloved launch title for the Switch had performance problems maintaining even 20fps at 720p. Pretty embarrassing.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bsimpson »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #128
wat10000 wrote: post #118

It seems like the days of revolutionary consumer electronics are over. This looks nice, for sure. But it’s really more of the same. Not surprising. It does surprise me that there’s such emphasis on it, though. There’s the name, of course, and then the entire video is based around “it’s the same thing but a little better.” Game console updates used to be big deals. The SNES was a revolution. PS2 was huge. Now… PS5? Wh…

> But it’s still a little shocking to see a company lean so far into the theme of “we made incremental improvements to this thing we released 8 years ago.” It's certainly more 'shocking' to see Nintendo do it than, say, Microsoft or Sony. But Nintendo hasn't always introduced huge new changes with a console bump — NES->SNES wasn't particularly revolutionary, and there were certainly no gimmicks there. I think it's a…

The Super Nintendo had totally new controllers and was top-loading. The UX was substantially different than the original Nintendo's VCR-style design.
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