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Re: Home Loss File System

#101
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's strange at all. Wouldn't this be a near perfect use-case for AI generated websites?

>Wouldn't this be a near perfect use-case for AI generated websites? A non-tech user prompting ChatGPT to write out HTML+CSS+Javascript still doesn't cover the other logistical challenges of hosting it on a server somewhere . E.g. Buy a domain? Then buy web hosting package? Or use Netlify? Amazon S3? Maybe someday OpenAI will have AI agents with authority to pay with customers' credit-cards and opens Cloudflare or Di…

I think you're the only one who understands what I was trying to say here, which means I didn't say it nearly clear enough. But thanks.

Re: Home Loss File System

#102
post #60

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

The same thing happened with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In Berlin, the entire effort to support refugees was coordinated on WhatsApp and Telegram, backed by Google Docs. It still did a marvelous job until the authorities could catch up and prepare resources. Even then the unofficial resources were far better. I run an information website for a living. There is nothing I could have done that would have beat the…

> It's marvelous that we can do so much, so fast, for free, with minimal computer skills. We should aim to make the independent web this easy.

Actually, I'd argue that our takeaway is the same. That's exactly the wider point I'm making, I'm just using this emergency as a synecdoche for it. This is good, the independent web would be better. Why is the barrier for entry to the 'normal' web so high that these people didn't consider it?

Lots of information that should be hosted by local, independent groups is being hosted in these closed un-indexable platforms. It does the creator a disservice and the end-user a disservice.

Had this disaster happened 10-15 years ago, I wager that this information would (I think) likely be displayed and posted here as a website (or at least turned into one).

And zooming out, how much good info is tied up in Google Docs alone? Indulge me.

- Here's TaranVH's (The editor from Linus Tech Tips, and a very technically skilled, impressive person) guide to colour grading.[This one hurts particularly because it's such a good document and desperately wants to be anything but a Google Doc.](https://shorturl.at/InI89)

- Here's a great resource for buying products for [Curly Hair.](https://shorturl.at/ZbNF9) This should be a blog.

- How many times have you seen YT drama or open letters be Google Docs? (https://shorturl.at/fJapj) If they were here, it'd be

- Here's a guide to video game stats. This should be on a Wiki. (https://shorturl.at/db49s)

- Here's a worldbuilding calculator. This should be a tool website.* (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AML0mIQcWDrrEHj-InXo...)

Whatever your opinion on whether or not these should or should not be documents vs. webpages, can we at least agree that they have information that people would be interested in? This stuff makes up the internet, this is where all the cool shit is. 10-15 years ago, these would be in search results. They're not anymore. It's all here, in undiscoverable Google Docs, unsearchable Discord servers, slow meandering Reddit threads, locked-down Facebook Groups and anti-discoverable TikTok feeds.

I keep hearing too much about good content leaving us (AI Slop in search), and not nearly enough about where it's going. If you find out where the good, creative stuff is going, you'll get your good, creative internet back.

*: I've said 'should' a lot, when what I mean is 'it would have been one when I was a kid'.

Re: Home Loss File System

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like this response contains within it a great deal of contempt for average people and their problem solving ability. Could you not just ask an LLM how one could host this website for free somewhere, and do the same for any logistical challenges that arise beyond that?

People could do that. Or they can click "new doc" in Docs, start typing, then copy the URL and send it to a friend. Look at that, they published a page, no problem solving necessary. Thus people, no matter their ability, will probably default to that approach. I don't think it's a value judgement to say one thing is easier than another and hence people will. Choose the easier thing. If we want more folks to use and b…

Exactly this. I do find it kinda funny that Google Docs/Word and their ilk have HTML export options. Kind of a weird funny/sad anachronism. As if there was some hope that people would use Google Docs to make their own contributions to the independent web.

Re: Home Loss File System

#104
This is nice!

One thing I was reading about was some folks cautioning about the scams and underhanded behavior that spring up around unfortunate events.

A tab/page dedicated documenting things to watch out for would be helpful.

Some items like what is described here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/how-do-i-avoid-scam...

Re: Home Loss File System

#105

This is nice! One thing I was reading about was some folks cautioning about the scams and underhanded behavior that spring up around unfortunate events. A tab/page dedicated documenting things to watch out for would be helpful. Some items like what is described here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/how-do-i-avoid-scam...

Thank you! I've added this to our "Additional Resources" Tab for now, but could see it getting its own tab down the road. Much appreciated!

Re: Home Loss File System

#106
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mentioned it, true. I declined to participate. Shall we have a meta discussion?

Go for it. I'd be interested to read along your meta discussion, but I would not want to participate in one. :]

that's not how this works :-|

Re: Home Loss File System

#107

Thanks Borski for sharing the link for the Home Loss File System - Digital Resource that my family has been working on. Were continuing to work to get the word out about this and the physical file boxes were creating for folks who are not tech savvy (homelossfilesystem.com). We've disseminated 2700 of the physical file boxes to fire survivors over the last 15 years and excited about what the digital resource can beco…

Thank you! Is it OK for me to share this beyond HN? I don't want you to get slashdotted.

Re: Home Loss File System

#108
post #16

There is no "File" menu in the current link because it's been shared in HTML view mode. To make a local copy, use this link to open it in edit mode instead (only the last path of the URL should be different): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TPeJzW5pa-BiJZjuEa1y...

(This has now been fixed, FYI)

Re: Home Loss File System

#109
I know someone who lost their home in the Palisades fires. This is what he said about this spreadsheet:

"I’ve already started spreading the word about the spreadsheet, it’s a great resource."

Re: Home Loss File System

#110

As an article posted on HN, I expected this to be about how to cope with losing a self-hosted Linux filesystem. As a resource to deal with "home loss", this is excellent. Also, I'd like to take a moment to appreciate how close this comes to implementing most of a website within a google spreadsheet. I know that much of this is intended to be duplicated and filled out, but the first few tabs would be right at home as…

> Also, I'd like to take a moment to appreciate how close this comes to implementing most of a website within a google spreadsheet

It looks horrible from any usability and GUI perspective.

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