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Re: RethinkDigg.com

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No worries, if they run out of time, there's always https://github.com/reddit/

I remember that reddit was very hard to set up. Is it any easier nowadays?

You run a single script which ends with "Congratulations! reddit is now installed"

Assuming everything works as planned.

https://github.com/reddit/reddit/blob/master/install-reddit....

Re: RethinkDigg.com

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Not really though, everyone knew that V4 was a terrible idea and they simply went forward without caring much for the community. I mean what kind of marketing research could you do to prove that using promoted stories is a good way to build a community?

You can find a research firm to tell you anything you want. They may have to torture the numbers more in some scenarios than in others, but there's no shortage of people willing to take your money in exchange for telling you what you already want to hear.

True true, but as we can see, that doesn't mean it'll help them succeed.

Re: RethinkDigg.com

#43
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>What they didn’t mention is that we’re rebuilding it from scratch. In six weeks. Famous last words. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

I'm interested and curious - anyone know of any other articles on this topic? I feel like I've come across a couple "bad" implementations of some concept (as I see it anyways), and thought the best solution would be to start over and redo it. Are there scenarios where starting from scratch is a good idea? How do you know? (As an aside, I don't think starting from scratch will revive Digg. I think its time has passed.…

That article is probably the most frequently cited piece of bad engineering advice in the world. Bad and unneeded advice, since most corporate environments are already extremely hostile to any kind of rewrites.

Heck, there are companies that still run DOS "servers". Engineering black holes. They suck developer time in and bend all infrastructure around themselves.

Re: RethinkDigg.com

#44

>What they didn’t mention is that we’re rebuilding it from scratch. In six weeks. Famous last words. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

One measly article does not a law constitute. There ARE counter-examples of successful systems re-built from scratch. The rewrite might have killed Netscape, for example, but without the rewrite from scratch not only would have Netscape died but there wouldn't be a Firefox or Mozilla Foundation now. (And I'd argue that it wasn't the rewrite that killed Netscape: the rewrite was necessary. What killed Netscape, and wo…

Yea, what killed Netscape was not the rewrite, but IMO the cancellation of Mariner:

http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=1708

And BTW, on IE6, the lack of competition resulting from the killing of Netscape was why MS can get away with stagnating IE for 5 years in the first place.

Re: RethinkDigg.com

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>What they didn’t mention is that we’re rebuilding it from scratch. In six weeks. Famous last words. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

One measly article does not a law constitute. There ARE counter-examples of successful systems re-built from scratch. The rewrite might have killed Netscape, for example, but without the rewrite from scratch not only would have Netscape died but there wouldn't be a Firefox or Mozilla Foundation now. (And I'd argue that it wasn't the rewrite that killed Netscape: the rewrite was necessary. What killed Netscape, and wo…

Look at history: The Digg v4 rewrite was catastrophic. Not in that it didn't work (it was quite elegant engineering wise e.g. Cassandra-powered Digg buttons) but in that it took a really long time and when it was finally ready it was already behind.

Re: RethinkDigg.com

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Am I the only one without a smartphone? I'm still using some old, beaten up Samsung crap which allows me to talk and sms a little. I spend my whole life in front of a computer, I am still always connected. Clearly, they are taking the "mobile" approach, it just doesn't suit me very well

Me as well, no mobile phone at all actually. But I just made decision to buy a WIFI only smartphone (meaning an Ipod Touch or Galaxy player) since I am connected 12 out my 16 waking hours. The rest of the time (driving, reading, relaxing) it's probably best I stay disconnected.

Re: RethinkDigg.com

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post #38
post #26

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Yep, (they paid a lot more than that) and it's probably worth it imo. Half the battle with web 2.0 sites is getting enough users to get the ball rolling. Digg already has that, and all they have to do is "reinvent" themselves with a great design and a focus on some set of users that aren't being well served by other community websites. Personally I'd try to target groups that reddit alienates.

> Personally I'd try to target groups that reddit alienates. Who are these groups? I'm (re)starting development of my own social news site, and I'm looking for a userbase to cater to.

The Anime weeaboo japenese 13 year old female furries/biochemical engineers/lawyers.

Re: RethinkDigg.com

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post #31

Am I the only one without a smartphone? I'm still using some old, beaten up Samsung crap which allows me to talk and sms a little. I spend my whole life in front of a computer, I am still always connected. Clearly, they are taking the "mobile" approach, it just doesn't suit me very well

It's not just your phone. I have an iPhone and an iPad (well...and another convertable netbook "tablet" thing that has been sitting in a project box for over a year), and I don't really "do" mobile. Mobile news ? Are people that attention deficient?

My favorite time to read news is my commute. I don't get your point.
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