I really wish Ryan Hoover would take back the integrity of Product Hunt. It's such an amazing product with such currently painful execution, assumingly in the name of site traffic traded for ad dollars. I truly think that the conversion rate for advertisers on PH would go UP if the quality of the site (moderated posts, comments, bot traffic) did the same.
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#22I really wish Ryan Hoover would take back the integrity of Product Hunt. It's such an amazing product with such currently painful execution, assumingly in the name of site traffic traded for ad dollars. I truly think that the conversion rate for advertisers on PH would go UP if the quality of the site (moderated posts, comments, bot traffic) did the same.
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#23"This isn't a popularity contest... so anyway, here's how voting works" is a bit silly, and right there on the front page is "yesterday's winners" which is more than a bit disingenuous.
What if I vote for nothing because all of the products are bad? Why do I care about a user leaderboard for with streaks and their voting history? No noise?
People are so concerned with having an actual downvote button but not-so-concerned with how gameable upvote only systems are.
One of my favorite newsletters just gives links with one-line description. Done. What if this site just listed 10 products a day. No voting, no "judgment" by anyone except the person curating the links.
What if 100 products come out in a week. How do you choose?
etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Just another channel to saturate
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could somebody explain the appeal of browsing Product Hunt? It seems just like a subreddit where people post nothing but ads for their businesses, and I've always been a bit baffled by it. Sure if I had a SaaS to sell I'd post it there, but why is there an audience for a long list of product ads?
They are not just product ads, they are ads for NEW products. So, the audience gets to stay on top of all the cutting edge products and services.
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#26Love the idea! Would be amazing if the ranking algorithm would be public. As in you know exactly what needs to be done to rank higher
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#27I really wish Ryan Hoover would take back the integrity of Product Hunt. It's such an amazing product with such currently painful execution, assumingly in the name of site traffic traded for ad dollars. I truly think that the conversion rate for advertisers on PH would go UP if the quality of the site (moderated posts, comments, bot traffic) did the same.
I left the site even before Ryan left, but yeah, he was the best person to steward it at forward. It’s been junk for a very long time.
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#28Edit: or best case scenario, bought
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#29I see a new product-hunt alternative launched every couple months here. Maybe I’m cynical, but I don’t think we’re going to displace product hunt with things like new voting dynamics. They already have the network effects, so I think you’d need to make a relatively large change to stand a real chance. Edit: Here’s a proposal for a bigger change. do some free advertising for the submitted ideas. Run simple Google/yout…
Maybe the bigger question is whether something like Product Hunt even needs to exist in the ecosystem. I think it had its place circa 2012–2014, but does it have any "real" users anymore? Or is it all founders and growth hackers trying to juice their launch, and an army of dummy accounts from people who sell votes?
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#30I honestly wonder about that kind of place. To me, consumers don't go on these platforms, only other makers. So it seems like it's just a place where you can get your idea stolen. Edit: or best case scenario, bought