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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by lnsru »

tolerance wrote: post #74
lnsru wrote: post #21

I am the guy who cares or cared! I will bring lost lady back to care home. I will help a kid to find his lost key in the playground. I will start fixing technical debt in a product at work. While two first cases were naturally the right thing to do I didn’t expect anything. With technical debt I was stopped because I was wasting company’s resources. I observe in my diary, that I am turning into do not care type perso…

Resist the cold churn toward pride-fueled apathy that this rant exhausts. After reading this, if this is supposed to demonstrate the psyche of the sort of person who “cares”, I really hope he keeps indoors and spends a little bit more time on his self before stepping out on others.

The thing is that I might be another psycho. But there is a city center, winter and an old women with blueish hands. Wearing no proper shoes and having only a sweater. There are hundred other caring and loving persons and missionaries around, heavy car traffic too. But somehow I am the one bringing her to the care facility a mile away. How can it happen!? Why do you think, that only a Good Samaritan can care and a psycho can’t?

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by Over2Chars »

imgabe wrote: post #129
Over2Chars wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nissan, Ghosn, and I can't answer the third easily without delving back into it, but if I think of an answer, I'll edit this reply.

Never heard of Ghosn before - but you mean this guy? https://www.dmarge.com/cars/nissan-bankruptcy-ceo-carlos-gho... The guy who's a wanted fugitive in Japan and fled to Lebanon by shipping himself in a piano box?

100% correct.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

batiudrami wrote: post #87
whyenot wrote: post #62

Most of the government employees that work in the bureaucracy do care. They care a lot. The reason their "favorite" part of the job is "stability" or "job security" is because the pay usually sucks compared to industry, and the bullshit you have to put up with to avoid scandals, lawsuits, and corruption also sucks. Most of the civil servants I know stay in their jobs because they really do want to help people; they r…

Also external people don’t generally know or understand all the constrains that led to decisions that are suboptimal (for the person complaining).

I work for the government IT.

Constraints are often bogus, made by a few bad actors and never questioned because the government is structured to avoid personal responsibility. Unfortunately, this takes away agility and disempowers individual workers.

Which, as noted in a nearby comment, makes them coping instead of caring.

An overlooked cause is the management science that insists on getting rid of individual ownership.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by mc3301 »

spencerflem wrote: post #72

As an antidote to this, one thing I like to do is notice when something is subtly nice. I've bumped into those little wobly plastic things making a narrow turn. Saved me from a scratch. The lights in my apartment are arranged so its quick to turn them all off when walking out the door. That sort of thing. One of the best parts of living in society with as much specialization as we have is that everything usually has…

I really enjoyed your comment. Without digging deep into design philosophy, it really is a fun practice to try hard to notice the things around you (especially in the physical world as opposed to digital) that were specifically designed for you in mind and have actually positively affected you. Most of them were quite intentional, indeed! Isn't that great?

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by Fricken »

>White LEDs reduce car crashes by 0.1% and that is measurable, but sleep quality and aesthetics are not measurable. You just have to care about them. And nobody cares.

I've always been sensitive to the flicker and broken colour spectrum of fluorescent lights, it has been a longstanding "How come everyone is so willing to spend all day every day under these horrible lights?" type pet peeve.

This guy has a problem with white LEDs and I'm not sure what his issue is. He really hates them but didn't explain why. I can't empathize, I don't understand.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by tommiegannert »

From skip-reading, this is not about motivation (intrinsic or otherwise) in general. This is about other people not caring about you, or what you care about.

I care a great deal about DevEx, and since no one else tends to care as much as I do, I can do good work for a few years, but then I'm worn out from fighting alone. I move on and hope things are more aligned somewhere else. Doesn't mean my co-workers are wrong for "not caring", just that I haven't found my peers.

The driver who doesn't let you into her lane perhaps cares deeply about not being late, again, to pick up her kids from daycare. Or her brother is about to do that stupid thing again, and if she doesn't try to stop him, she'll feel bad forever, again. Which lane you're in doesn't even register on her list.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by [deleted] »

janislaw wrote: post #124
jeffreygoesto wrote: post #19

I want to live in a community where everyone cares.

Reading the original article I reflected: "I can totally see how this can happen, but for some reason it doesn't happen where I live" I moved to Switzerland 9y ago. People care. I believe this is due to high trust society which evolved not that long ago from small, poor, tightly woven communities.

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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by tolerance »

lnsru wrote: post #131
tolerance wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Resist the cold churn toward pride-fueled apathy that this rant exhausts. After reading this, if this is supposed to demonstrate the psyche of the sort of person who “cares”, I really hope he keeps indoors and spends a little bit more time on his self before stepping out on others.

The thing is that I might be another psycho. But there is a city center, winter and an old women with blueish hands. Wearing no proper shoes and having only a sweater. There are hundred other caring and loving persons and missionaries around, heavy car traffic too. But somehow I am the one bringing her to the care facility a mile away. How can it happen!? Why do you think, that only a Good Samaritan can care and a ps…

Well, pardon me. It doesn’t seem to me like you’ve gone mad, but if you are a psycho indeed, I don’t want to do you further harm.

If you really are “all right” and just an honestly styled man trying to cultivate good in a barren city with crushed soil and souls, then I reckon there’s some care in you of some kind much to be desired from others and you know it.

And I suspect that it’s the psychos who believe that they’re “Good Samaritans” and if your word is true then we can tell that apparently they’re unwilling to provide actions that confirm their claims. Crazy.

So, my guess is maybe the world’s gone so mad that anyone trying to behave sane looks strange, and the ones who are mad pretend to be right until wrong shows up.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by guelo »

Republicans want to tear government apart and privatize everything. Democrats have big ideas but sacrifice them on the altar of protecting public unions. Nobody fights for good government. I'm sick and tired of the endless big vs small government argument, I want to vote for good effective responsive government, good hang for the tax buck whatever it's size.
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