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Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

killjoywashere wrote: post #74
teractiveodular wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes? North Korea's own nuclear capability is very limited, and China doesn't care enough about North Korea to use its own arsenal and risk nuclear annihilation. I still wouldn't want to be in Seoul or Tokyo if that happens though, and yes, there's a non-zero risk somebody somewhere gets trigger happy and things spiral out of control.

The Yalu River separates China and North Korea. General MacArthur sent US troops across the Yalu, which is what caused the Chinese to enter the Korean War, and led to most of the US casualties. Truman fired MacArthur for disobeying his order to stay on the Korean side of the Yalu. That was before the Chinese had nuclear weapons. The Korean peninsula has been under an armistice and not at peace for 70 years in large p…

Do you have a source for MacArthur actually crossing the Yalu? I can't seem to find one.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by Starlevel004 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #57
killjoywashere wrote: post #45

> engineers mused over whether there was anything to be done top stop a torrent of enemy missiles falling across the nation. These superweapons seemed to promise destruction on an overbearing scale, threatening the very existence of human civilization itself. THEY STILL DO!!!! This is what drives me nuts about our politics: so many people seem to think we can flirt with the sort of nationalism (1) that led us into WW…

>nationalism that led us into WWI and WWII. WW1 kicked off due to a royal getting murdered in broad daylight which triggered a cascade of alliances. Nationality had nothing to do with it. WW2 kicked off due to the victors of WW1 raping Germany so bad they had nothing but nationalism to hold on to. American nationalism also initially wanted nothing to do with WW2, begrudgingly started helping behind the curtains once…

> WW2 kicked off due to the victors of WW1 raping Germany so bad

So bad that germany was the strongest economy in interwar Europe under ten years later? If anything, the allies was nowhere near harsh enough on Germany; the state should have been systemically dismantled and remade as an inoffensive rump state.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by d_e_solomon »

Gvaskas wrote: post #61
killjoywashere wrote: post #45

> engineers mused over whether there was anything to be done top stop a torrent of enemy missiles falling across the nation. These superweapons seemed to promise destruction on an overbearing scale, threatening the very existence of human civilization itself. THEY STILL DO!!!! This is what drives me nuts about our politics: so many people seem to think we can flirt with the sort of nationalism (1) that led us into WW…

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I'm pretty sure people who grew up under feudalism with no loyalty to a national state still saw their child as their child and not a compatriot. What a weird take.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by lamontcg »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #50
killjoywashere wrote: post #45

> engineers mused over whether there was anything to be done top stop a torrent of enemy missiles falling across the nation. These superweapons seemed to promise destruction on an overbearing scale, threatening the very existence of human civilization itself. THEY STILL DO!!!! This is what drives me nuts about our politics: so many people seem to think we can flirt with the sort of nationalism (1) that led us into WW…

The current government is going to weaken Western alliances. China is going to take Taiwan. Japan and South Korea are going to rapidly develop nuclear weapons programs. North Korea will increase the range of its missiles to reliably hit the entire US. The entire Middle East is going to nuclearize, with Iran first and then Saudi Arabia (the Trump white house was trying to arrange this last term, I suppose they'll succ…

> North Korea will increase the range of its missiles to reliably hit the entire US.

Getting a ballistic missile to hit the continental US is the first of many problems they'll need to solve before I start losing any sleep.

They also need to be able to hit a location accurately.

And they need a hypersonic reentry vehicle capable of delivering a nuclear payload without disintegrating the bomb or prematurely burning up the explosives in it.

Those are incredibly difficult problems, and each one keeps getting worse.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by nocoiner »

Dalewyn wrote: post #58
matthewdgreen wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current government is going to weaken Western alliances. China is going to take Taiwan. Japan and South Korea are going to rapidly develop nuclear weapons programs. North Korea will increase the range of its missiles to reliably hit the entire US. The entire Middle East is going to nuclearize, with Iran first and then Saudi Arabia (the Trump white house was trying to arrange this last term, I suppose they'll succ…

>Japan and South Korea are going to rapidly develop nuclear weapons programs. Japan would need to amend their constitution for that, and that is simply not happening. They have failed to amend their constitution for much more mundane objectives, let alone nukes.

So that just means that if they ever make the political decision to pursue nuclear armament, they’ll call it the Japan Strategic Self-Defense Force.

As it is, Japan probably already has nukes that are all-but-assembled. Even if they don’t, they’re at most a handful of months away from taking whatever steps remain for a highly advanced industrial economy with existing nuclear infrastructure to finish building a bomb or two.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by zaik »

BurningFrog wrote: post #86
Dalewyn wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Japan and South Korea are going to rapidly develop nuclear weapons programs. Japan would need to amend their constitution for that, and that is simply not happening. They have failed to amend their constitution for much more mundane objectives, let alone nukes.

Japan could of course do it in secret, like others have.

In a complete disregard for the rule of law? Which other democratic countries with anti-nuclear constitution had a secret nuclear program?

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by Gvaskas »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #65
Gvaskas wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What a strange argument. Nationalism is only around around 200 years old, because it's one of the basic ideas that formed the modern era.

We might have only given it a name 200 years ago. It was the default state for all of human history, and still is in the animal kingdom.

A population of people of shared blood and history sharing a homeland in pursuit of common values and ambitions, violently defending it from foreigners whenever necessary.

Not a soulless economic zone where foreigners are treated like royalty by traitors and treasonous authorities.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by theandrewbailey »

SoftTalker wrote: post #26
JSTrading wrote: post #13

Anyone know where there any installations of these signs?

I remember seeing FALLOUT SHELTER signs around as a kid.

I still see them on some old buildings with thick stone or brick exteriors like town halls and post offices.

Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by elzbardico »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #50
killjoywashere wrote: post #45

> engineers mused over whether there was anything to be done top stop a torrent of enemy missiles falling across the nation. These superweapons seemed to promise destruction on an overbearing scale, threatening the very existence of human civilization itself. THEY STILL DO!!!! This is what drives me nuts about our politics: so many people seem to think we can flirt with the sort of nationalism (1) that led us into WW…

The current government is going to weaken Western alliances. China is going to take Taiwan. Japan and South Korea are going to rapidly develop nuclear weapons programs. North Korea will increase the range of its missiles to reliably hit the entire US. The entire Middle East is going to nuclearize, with Iran first and then Saudi Arabia (the Trump white house was trying to arrange this last term, I suppose they'll succ…

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Re: Road signs to help people limit radiation exposure in contaminated areas

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Post by elzbardico »

Retric wrote: post #64
Gvaskas wrote: post #61

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The west is the strongest it’s ever been in its entire history. O, no someone claims things are failing. Look people have been saying that for thousands of years it doesn’t actually mean it’s true.

The west can't even make enough artillery shells in one year to overcome Russia's monthly production. Fucking Russia for God's sake.
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