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Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Re: Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Post by ericmay »

m4rtink wrote: post #30
EmilStenstrom wrote: post #5

Summary of the concrete actions: 1. Early 2025: Identify Federal sites for AI data centers, clean energy facilities, and geothermal zones. Streamline permitting processes and draft reporting requirements for AI infrastructure. Develop a plan for global collaboration on trusted AI infrastructure. 2. By Mid-2025: Issue solicitations for AI infrastructure projects on Federal sites. Select winning proposals and announce…

Provided all this centralized governement owned and run infra somehow gets built, what it would be actually doing to warrant the expense ? I am quite skeptical in this regard. :P

What would the cost be of not undertaking these actions?

Re: Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Post by tsunamifury »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #13
digdugdirk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually a wildly short timeframe for a large political plan like this. Going from idea to breaking ground on a massive infrastructure project in a calendar year? It'll be interesting to see if this turns into a political/legal quagmire or not, since it's ostensibly aligned with both parties (donors) interests.

Agreed, it seems wildly optimistic to me. I was working at a military installation command last year and it would often take 6 months just to survey some existing buildings for renovation + repurposing and trying to get those plans approved. Stuff like "repaint these walls, mitigate mold, and install sub-divided chain-link fence in this warehouse" was busting our timelines. I'm assuming that just getting the paperwor…

The contracts will go to Google and Amazon who can lay down a Data center in months

Re: Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Post by fullshark »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #36
api_or_ipa wrote: post #22

It's interesting to see the federal government taking a strong industrial policy approach to AI through this executive order as well as physical computing via the CHIPS act. Couple concerns: - I loath to believe in silver bullets. The executive branch seems to believe that investing in AI (note: the order, despite the extensive definitions, leaves Artificial Intelligence undefined) is the solution to US global leader…

Is the U.S. responding to recent moves in the U.K. to make a national effort in this field (the U.S. does not want to be an also-ran)? Are they responding to the efforts in China? Do they know something more than we do with regard to the efficacy of current or soon-to-come AI? Or is it purely a speculative business/economic move?

They know that the next war will involve computer vision / sensor data + countless decisions made by computers based on that data.

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

m4rtink wrote: post #30
EmilStenstrom wrote: post #5

Summary of the concrete actions: 1. Early 2025: Identify Federal sites for AI data centers, clean energy facilities, and geothermal zones. Streamline permitting processes and draft reporting requirements for AI infrastructure. Develop a plan for global collaboration on trusted AI infrastructure. 2. By Mid-2025: Issue solicitations for AI infrastructure projects on Federal sites. Select winning proposals and announce…

Provided all this centralized governement owned and run infra somehow gets built, what it would be actually doing to warrant the expense ? I am quite skeptical in this regard. :P

Building Skynet of course.

There is already AI flying F-16's.

AI targeting systems.

AI surveillance

I mean, sky's the limit.

Re: Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Post by jay_kyburz »

m4rtink wrote: post #30
EmilStenstrom wrote: post #5

Summary of the concrete actions: 1. Early 2025: Identify Federal sites for AI data centers, clean energy facilities, and geothermal zones. Streamline permitting processes and draft reporting requirements for AI infrastructure. Develop a plan for global collaboration on trusted AI infrastructure. 2. By Mid-2025: Issue solicitations for AI infrastructure projects on Federal sites. Select winning proposals and announce…

Provided all this centralized governement owned and run infra somehow gets built, what it would be actually doing to warrant the expense ? I am quite skeptical in this regard. :P

I suspect we are not in a race for a better LLM, but a race to the singularity.

"I. J. Good's intelligence explosion model of 1965, an upgradable intelligent agent could eventually enter a positive feedback loop of self-improvement cycles, each successive; and more intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing a rapid increase ("explosion") in intelligence which would ultimately result in a powerful superintelligence, qualitatively far surpassing all human intelligence.[4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

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Post by Blackthorn »

hammock wrote: post #24
Workaccount2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the incoming admin I can't imagine anything other than huge nat gas plants being built to power these data centers...

The EO talks a lot about prioritizing clean power.

Somehow, I don't think the incoming executive cares about that.

Re: Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Post by [deleted] »

m4rtink wrote: post #30
EmilStenstrom wrote: post #5

Summary of the concrete actions: 1. Early 2025: Identify Federal sites for AI data centers, clean energy facilities, and geothermal zones. Streamline permitting processes and draft reporting requirements for AI infrastructure. Develop a plan for global collaboration on trusted AI infrastructure. 2. By Mid-2025: Issue solicitations for AI infrastructure projects on Federal sites. Select winning proposals and announce…

Provided all this centralized governement owned and run infra somehow gets built, what it would be actually doing to warrant the expense ? I am quite skeptical in this regard. :P

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Re: Executive order on advancing United States leadership in AI infrastructure

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Post by spencerflem »

Pidaymou wrote: post #15
nfRfqX5n wrote: post #12

Can someone explain the purpose of releasing this right before their administration is ending? Or am I misunderstanding something

The US bureaucracy is largely indifferent to changes in administration, though it undoubtedly wields significant influence. The key point is that major policy decisions are made by established bureaucrats in the military, State Department, and other parts of the essential institutional actors. As a result, any country, like China, perceived as a threat to US hegemony will be vigorously fought against.

This is historically true, but likely to change under project 2025
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