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Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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Actually, I have been thinking about this for last 90 mins...

Longbets is kind of the same idea, but seems restricted to famous people (tptacek or pg would qualify I think).

I was not able to find a website that exactly does this. I feel like this idea might have big potential, and can go viral easily.

edit: seems like everyone can create a bet on that site.

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Longbets is kind of the same idea, but seems restricted to famous people (tptacek or pg would qualify I think).

I was not able to find a website that exactly does this. I feel like this idea might have big potential, and can go viral easily. edit: seems like everyone can create a bet on that site.

http://iwagerr.com is a twitter-based platform for random, friendly bets people make with one another all the time.

Disclaimer: This was my "weekend" project a year or so back. A revamp is in order!

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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No, but if you'd like to make a bet on it, and are happy to lose money, I'm probably happy to put $500 on the line, winnings to charity (mine's Partners In Health). What would you like the terms to be?

Sure! 36 months to deadpool. I'd do $200 to NGLTF.

you guys should set a more realistic target. it probably won't deadpool since it can be run on a very small amount of money.

a target such as cumulative pageviews, or that the aggregate svbtle website will not become a major source of tech opinion (and will not break into the techmeme leaderboard[1])

[1] http://techmeme.com/lb

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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Sure! 36 months to deadpool. I'd do $200 to NGLTF.

you guys should set a more realistic target. it probably won't deadpool since it can be run on a very small amount of money. a target such as cumulative pageviews, or that the aggregate svbtle website will not become a major source of tech opinion (and will not break into the techmeme leaderboard[1]) [1] http://techmeme.com/lb

I agree that the bet he proposed is doomed. I'm good with some alternate metric, too.

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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So I'm just a simple country lad who doesn't understand the big silicon valley city, but I really don't get svbtle. This is coming from someone who is (I imagine) part of 'the masses' who has been linked posts from there but otherwise has no involvement. It's.. a curated collection of blogs? Why can't you just have a blog? I've probably been linked a dozen or so blogs inside that network (always from HN, I've never n…

Why are there so many people here on HN to reflexively find Svtble pretentious and whatever similar adjectives they use?? When it was first shown, there was a common feeling in the posts of not being picked by a kid at school to play in the lunch time soccer team. :P The internet, and I guess I'll say life in general, needs more curation and less dumping. We speak of design and other wonderful things yet we encourage…

A lot of the blogs on svbtle aren't very good.

That is not to disparage the platform itself -- I like the style and the emphasis it places on content -- nor Dustin, who I find pretty fascinating, but the blogs just aren't good. I don't mean 'not good' in the sense of 'oh, this is poor writing', but in the sense of 'the consumption of this content was not worth my time.'

A few examples: - Dave McClure, who I admire and respect, writing a ridiculous blog post about 'hoping to be a late bloomer.' Dude, you have a Wikipedia article about yourself.

- Dalton Caldwell, who's proved himself time and time again to be prescient (his 2010 YC speech is wonderful in its truths), has been blogging about the importance of app.net. If I'm a developer, a tweeter, and a general tech enthusiast who, after three pretty lengthy blog posts, still doesn't understand what a "decentralized real-time feed" is -- let alone why its important -- then something is wrong.

- Dozens of fluff pieces which serve as little more than porn for the SV crowd.

I want Svbtle to succeed, and honestly think it will. I don't think that success is going to come when its definition of 'curation' involves what it currently does.

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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When I read this, I see my old YC2010 startup NewsLabs/NewsTilt. I maintain that was a good idea, but I wasn't the one to do it. My lessons are at http://blog.paulbiggar.com/archive/why-we-shut-newstilt-down, and it looks like Dustin has a handle on most of it.

Dustin has a lot that we didn't - a good sense of design, a large following, writers already contributing, and from the look of this, some cash. We had writers too, but they were checking out the latest fad, not actually writing for their own purposes. We didnt have the followers/brand awareness to bootstrap traffic - I think svbtle does.

I think he's doing some of the things which for us were mistakes, but they might not be in the context of svbtle. For example, we also made our own CMS instead of using wordpress. That was definitely a mistake for us, but I'm not convinced it is here - could go either way.

He's making the branding all about svbtle instead of about the journalist. That was definitely a mistake for us, again I'm not positive it is a mistake here - svbtle actually has a brand (even if some people think its a pretentious one).

He's making it about journalism instead of about blogging. I think that's a mistake. Journalism is a horrible niche to be in and I would hate to be a journalist. It has expectation of journalistic purity and a hypocritical hype machine around traffic. Better to be a blog network - I think it's closer to what svbtle is now and I believe that has the potential to be bigger than just journalism.

We werent motivated by journalism - I've never heard of Dustin being either. I think he made svbtle to be a better blog, so why not focus on that? I could be wrong here - I dont know Dustin well at all.

I think they're aiming for the right level of writer - definitely those who want to make something for themselves. We didnt: http://blog.paulbiggar.com/archive/why-we-shut-newstilt-down...

Anyway, this looks like it might work. I cringe when I read about it because it brings back the awful memories of a failed startup, but I could see this succeeding. Best of luck Dvstin!

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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So I'm just a simple country lad who doesn't understand the big silicon valley city, but I really don't get svbtle. This is coming from someone who is (I imagine) part of 'the masses' who has been linked posts from there but otherwise has no involvement. It's.. a curated collection of blogs? Why can't you just have a blog? I've probably been linked a dozen or so blogs inside that network (always from HN, I've never n…

Even worse, it's a curated collection of blogs... that all look the same! Dave McClure posted a really thoughtful post about late bloomers recently, and the general reaction was "Wait...Dave McClure wrote that?" Yeah, you can't tell, because his blog looks exactly like 20+ other ones! This is the same pet peeve I had with WPTouch...everything looks the same and it destroys branding. (Not hoity-toity Fortune 500 compa…

>Dave McClure posted a really thoughtful post about late bloomers recently, and the general reaction was "Wait...Dave McClure wrote that?" Yeah, you can't tell, because his blog looks exactly like 20+ other ones!

You're supposed to id a successful blogger by his writing style, not by the looks of his blog.

Did people have trouble reading Roger Ebert or H.L Mencken, because they wrote in a newspaper in the same type and pages as other people?

Plus, with an RSS reader, all blogs look even MORE the same.

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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Why are there so many people here on HN to reflexively find Svtble pretentious and whatever similar adjectives they use?? When it was first shown, there was a common feeling in the posts of not being picked by a kid at school to play in the lunch time soccer team. :P The internet, and I guess I'll say life in general, needs more curation and less dumping. We speak of design and other wonderful things yet we encourage…

A lot of the blogs on svbtle aren't very good. That is not to disparage the platform itself -- I like the style and the emphasis it places on content -- nor Dustin, who I find pretty fascinating, but the blogs just aren't good. I don't mean 'not good' in the sense of 'oh, this is poor writing', but in the sense of 'the consumption of this content was not worth my time.' A few examples: - Dave McClure, who I admire an…

> A lot of the blogs on svbtle aren't very good. I want Svbtle to succeed, and honestly think it will. I don't think that success is going to come when its definition of 'curation' involves what it currently does.

I agree with you—there needs to be a lot more than just curating who posts or at least the seemingly main prerequisite being well known in an area.

Yeah, over time once the network matures, Dustin improves upon his idea, etc, it will be much better.

Re: Svbtle is hiring to build the future of news and opinion on the web

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So I'm just a simple country lad who doesn't understand the big silicon valley city, but I really don't get svbtle. This is coming from someone who is (I imagine) part of 'the masses' who has been linked posts from there but otherwise has no involvement. It's.. a curated collection of blogs? Why can't you just have a blog? I've probably been linked a dozen or so blogs inside that network (always from HN, I've never n…

I agree, something about it is pretentious. The title of svbtle.com is 'Svbtle : The essence of blogging' which reminds me of that advert in Zoolander where Derrick is advertising some sort of male facecream.

This, for sure. Love the Zoolander comment; that's exactly the feeling I get about Svbtle. Even the name is pretentious. It smells of Silicon Valley circle jerk.
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