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I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by frizlab »

baxtr wrote: post #11
internet_points wrote: post #3

It's the closest we have to a browser not controlled by the corporate giants. Sometimes Mozilla makes unpopular choices and people raise a stink about it, but we do that because we hold them to a higher standard. With Microsoft and Google, we just expect them to Do More Evil, with Mozilla we expect Good and will complain loudly when they fail to uphold our principles, and we recommend Firefox because we feel like it…

I actually really like Safari… sometimes tabs sync across devices is buggy, reloads a lot. But other than that I’m quite content.

I like it too. I use the Add to Dock feature a lot! E.g. for slack, which does not have a native app, I use the website instead.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by infinityplus1 »

baxtr wrote: post #11
internet_points wrote: post #3

It's the closest we have to a browser not controlled by the corporate giants. Sometimes Mozilla makes unpopular choices and people raise a stink about it, but we do that because we hold them to a higher standard. With Microsoft and Google, we just expect them to Do More Evil, with Mozilla we expect Good and will complain loudly when they fail to uphold our principles, and we recommend Firefox because we feel like it…

I actually really like Safari… sometimes tabs sync across devices is buggy, reloads a lot. But other than that I’m quite content.

I tried switching to Safari 2-3 years back after getting a new M1 Air . After using it for a few hours, websites would just stop working and only fix was to restart the browser. After a few times, I gave up and went back to Firefox.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by wussboy »

elephanlemon wrote: post #83
ethbr1 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What doesn't work with YouTube on Firefox? Asked as on mobile I run as few apps as possible, so use the web version. Haven't seen any issues.

I ended up switching back from Firefox to Chrome after a few weeks because I found that if I had more than about 6 YouTube tabs opened, the YouTube interface would become very laggy. I blamed it on Firefox at the time but maybe it was something intentional by Google.

How…how many videos are you watching at one time?

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by mrweasel »

jampekka wrote: post #32
baxtr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually really like Safari… sometimes tabs sync across devices is buggy, reloads a lot. But other than that I’m quite content.

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Probably depends on how you do web development. I don't like Chrome for web development, but others claim it's better than Firefox and Safari. I normally use Firefox, but would probably pick Safari over Chrome, if nothing else to avoid having to install yet another browser.

We all know that the best web development tools ever to be created was those that shipped with Opera when they still used Presto.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by HunOL »

ustad wrote: post #23

Currently the main attack facing Firefox is coming from advertising companies such as YouTube. It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. The mentality here is pretty disturbing: it’s almost like punishing users for making the choice to browse the web without ads, or without the surveillance mechanisms th…

> It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers.

Pretty sure that was happening back in a days when Opera was using own engine (Presto). They shipped browser with scripts to fix some popular sites. Actually Firefox also has some fixes for particular sites about:compat

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by Klonoar »

julienwaj wrote: post #100
scarface_74 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the choice not to optimize for battery efficiency on my Mac?

Can you please elaborate on that?

They may be referring to the fact that Firefox is probably the worst on battery of the 3 main browsers when used on macOS.

Safari does admittedly set a very high bar though, and only cares about 1-2 platforms at most.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by scarface_74 »

julienwaj wrote: post #100
scarface_74 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the choice not to optimize for battery efficiency on my Mac?

Can you please elaborate on that?

Neither Firefox nor Chrome optimize for battery efficiency like Safari does on Macs or Edge does for Windows.

I’m not trying to be the “just Google it” guy without citations. But I couldn’t find a definitive citation - just general discussions and some YouTube videos including earlier discussions on HN.

I searched for “firefox vs safari battery mac” and the same for Edge on Windows.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by arnaudsm »

Firefox is guilty of every single thing Chrome is accused of.

* It includes advertisements in the New Tab page without user consent https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sponsor-privacy

* It shared browsing history without user consent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliqz#Integration_with_Firefox

* It enabled a new tracking protocol for advertisers without user consent https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2024/08/22/ppa-update/

* It blocked uBlock Lite from their store without notice https://www.pcworld.com/article/2474353/popular-ad-blocker-r...

* It's ~80% funded by Google https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...

* Their main focus lately has been white-labelling dubious products https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/03/mozilla-drops-onerep-aft...

Mozilla is a tech company that stopped caring about tech and loves to portray itself as a victim.

Since they fired the entire Servo (& Rust) team, the project joined the Linux Foundation. Servo is now my best hope for a truly independent browser.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by Workaccount2 »

tapoxi wrote: post #66
ustad wrote: post #23

Currently the main attack facing Firefox is coming from advertising companies such as YouTube. It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. The mentality here is pretty disturbing: it’s almost like punishing users for making the choice to browse the web without ads, or without the surveillance mechanisms th…

> It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. Why would I, as a developer whose income stream is based on advertising, intentionally cater to users who are costing me money? There is a web based on hobbyist platforms like PeerTube and Mastodon, and you can clearly see why they haven't captured the masses.

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