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I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

#21

How are the Firefox dev tools these days? Every time I've tried in the past I end up missing the Chrome dev tools, and it's too much of a pain to have one browser for development and one for browsing. I would love to switch, though.

Dev tools are very decent. At this point it's almost indistinguishable from Chrome dev tools. The "Performance" tab might be the one exception, where it's a different flow for profiling. But otherwise it should feel very familiar.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

#22
I used Firefox before Chrome took over, and then stuck with Chrome until about a year ago when I started using Brave.

Last week I switched to Edge. I know some people will turn up their nose at such a choice, but it turns out to actually be a very nice browser. I'm even using it on my phone now too.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Currently the main attack facing Firefox is coming from advertising companies such as YouTube.

It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. The mentality here is pretty disturbing: it’s almost like punishing users for making the choice to browse the web without ads, or without the surveillance mechanisms that come with them. Instead of building a better experience, these engineers seem to be focused on sabotaging alternatives in the name of profit or control. The kind of mindset behind this reeks of the same tactics we see in some ad networks or big tech companies - if we can’t convince you to opt in, we’ll make sure you’re inconvenienced or frustrated until you do.

It’s a dangerous precedent because it introduces a toxic game of cat-and-mouse, where the user is constantly playing defense, trying to protect themselves from deliberate misdirection. It’s not just an ethical concern, but also an issue of how we value user autonomy in the digital space.

For the hackers out there, this is a opportunity to dig into the JavaScript code responsible for this. There’s almost certainly some interesting obfuscation or odd behavior hiding in the code, and by pulling it apart, we can both understand how these tactics work and build tools or methods to counteract them. Let’s make sure the only thing that slows down the web is bad design or slow servers, not malicious code aimed at punishing the user for making their own choices.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

#24

How are the Firefox dev tools these days? Every time I've tried in the past I end up missing the Chrome dev tools, and it's too much of a pain to have one browser for development and one for browsing. I would love to switch, though.

I can do everything in terms of debugging in firefox than I can in chrome. I've not found any issues thus far, including wrangling cookies and more esoteric auth stuff. Obviosuly every good webdev does multiple browser testing and sometimes firefox behaves differently to chrome so you have to jump in and see why. Never been an issue (to my work at least).

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

#25

How are the Firefox dev tools these days? Every time I've tried in the past I end up missing the Chrome dev tools, and it's too much of a pain to have one browser for development and one for browsing. I would love to switch, though.

I haven't used Firefox in a bit, but I thought their devtools were pretty good, but last time I used it I used their developer edition browser [1]. I think the devtools were particularly bad when you used to have to install Firebug as a seperate part of the browser which is no longer the case [2]. For a quick view of what the developer tools currently look like you can see here [3]

[1]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

[2]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefo...

[3]: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/devtools-user/

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

#27
My very old, and bad, laptop takes an extremely long time to start Firefox. However, forks like Floorp are a lot quicker to start. And since I'm pretty strict about using the same tools everywhere (no matter the OS) I'm now using Floorp on my main PC as well. But I'm not sure Floorp can be trusted... does anyone have anything to say about it?

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

#30

I'm glad the writer is enjoying Firefox, but posts like these make me realize we've forgotten how to use computers. Built-in screenshot tool? "You don't need to install extensions"! Really? Dude just press Print Screen, it even works outside a browser, if one day you have to be put through the unspeakable torture of using a native application! Single-use burner emails are also nice and all, but why exactly does this…

I see what you mean, but that tool allows you to take a picture of the entire vertical length of the page. You can't easily (i.e.: with one click) do that with the print screen key.
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