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China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app. US users consider this a better option than American offerings such as Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube. While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics. As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users.

>While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics.

I disagree. I believe Chinese developers have more problems due to CCP's censorship. For example, the new NetEase game, Marvel Rivals, has censorship built in.

also, please explain in detail what politics is being push by US developers.

https://gamerant.com/marvel-rivals-censorship-chat-messages-...

>As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users.

A quick Google search shows that Instagram has over 2 billion MAUs, while TikTok has 1.6 billion.

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Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app. US users consider this a better option than American offerings such as Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube. While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics. As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users.

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Too much money chasing too few goods in the market causes Inflation Too much Content chasing limited human Attention is causing very very similar issues. It took centuries to connect the fact that increasing or decreasing the money supply at a faster or slower rate than goods arriving in the market causes all kinds of chaos. The chaos made it hard to see the connection. Central banks finally emerged to manage money s…

> Central banks finally emerged to manage money supply and target a healthy inflation rate

Platforms like TikTok--or more accurately, their algorithms--as ersatz central banks of attention is a fascinating concept.

> we are probably in a hyperinflationary state. As content keeps exploding

More content chasing limited attention means the content's value is inflating. Sure enough, we see a secular decline in ad prices from 2010 to 2020 [1]. (They have increased since 2020.)

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WPU365

Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app. US users consider this a better option than American offerings such as Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube. While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics. As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users.

> Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app

PAFACA (seriously?) already empowers the President to designate "applications owned and operated by other companies" as "oreign adversary controlled applications" [1].

If a deal is forthcoming between Musk and Bytedance, RedNote will almost certainly be designated in Q1.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore...

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I can’t even imagine how many weird decisions would get made in Elon’s TikTok. I guess this would have been a Twitter-style blessing in terms of killing it, if only its Facebook/YouTube-powered alternatives didn’t exist and we could get rid of short form video for good.

You would disempower people far more than empower them. You would be denying them the right to free speech and the free exchange of ideas. It would basically result in the wanton destruction of probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of established little pockets of community for self-expression that people had worked to build and maintain*. Name one other type of media that does not then also deserve the same…

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Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app. US users consider this a better option than American offerings such as Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube. While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics. As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users.

> Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app PAFACA (seriously?) already empowers the President to designate "applications owned and operated by other companies" as "oreign adversary controlled applications" [1]. If a deal is forthcoming between Musk and Bytedance, RedNote will almost certainly be designated in Q1. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore.…

Well Americans better get used to using a VPN if they want to breach their firewall. I gotta admit this cyber situation switcheroo happening in the third week of 2025 is not what i had on my bingo card. I expected that more to happen post Trump 2nd term.

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> While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics. As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users. What specific features does Rednote have that beat US competitors? Where do you think that US users heard about Rednote? If you are not a TikTok user, then you would had never heard of this app. Clearly, TikTok used their algo to "raid" R…

It's much simpler than that! You just have to recognize that this is basically the Streisand effect, or, hell, even just the Boston Tea Party! 1. A government/center of power imposes a unilateral decree to deprive many people of something they used to have a right to 2. The affected hear: "shut up about your rights" 3. This act of deprivation itself becomes the uniting common issue for the affected, and then they bec…

As someone who grew up under authoritarian communism, I know exactly what to tell you.

Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app PAFACA (seriously?) already empowers the President to designate "applications owned and operated by other companies" as "oreign adversary controlled applications" [1]. If a deal is forthcoming between Musk and Bytedance, RedNote will almost certainly be designated in Q1. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore.…

Well Americans better get used to using a VPN if they want to breach their firewall. I gotta admit this cyber situation switcheroo happening in the third week of 2025 is not what i had on my bingo card. I expected that more to happen post Trump 2nd term.

> Americans better get used to using a VPN if they want to breach their firewall

The domains aren’t blocked. The apps are just blocked from app stores and hosting prohibited by American providers.

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