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Did they arrive in town sequentially as well?
43K fewer drivers on Manhattan roads after congestion pricing turned on
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Re: 43K fewer drivers on Manhattan roads after congestion pricing turned on
#12This seems to be the goto method for most cities now. Got something that isn’t working anymore or the public needs more of it? Just start charging for it and make it a revenue source!
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this is totally true - subsidizing the rich by the poor I always thought congestion pricing was always mis-priced, and it should be tied to income/wealth. The only way to do this is to let the poor apply and get free electronic tokens and get that missing 43k back. fyi - my MD can easily manage a 10x the mid-town tolls
> I always thought congestion pricing was always mis-priced, and it should be tied to income/wealth.
NYC has a low-income discount system: https://new.mta.info/tolls/congestion-relief-zone/discounts-...
But also, the money is going to fund public transit, which disproportionately benefits poorer people.
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#15When I see things like: > Bus speeds also increased after the tolls were turned on. The Manhattan-bound B39 bus, which crosses the Williamsburg Bridge, ran 28% faster compared to a similar January week last year. Other buses like the SIM24 and and the M50 saw increases in speeds, as well. I wonder how much cherry picking there is. Did they give the B39 because it's the most improved? Or for some other reason (especia…
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was across the board for buses into lower Manhattan/around bridges into Manhattan. When living in cities I usually use both buses and trains but when living in NYC I tried to avoid buses when possible as you are at the behest of an insane amount of traffic usually; meaning you can’t reliably be places on time if you are using the bus.
Re: 43K fewer drivers on Manhattan roads after congestion pricing turned on
#16When I see things like: > Bus speeds also increased after the tolls were turned on. The Manhattan-bound B39 bus, which crosses the Williamsburg Bridge, ran 28% faster compared to a similar January week last year. Other buses like the SIM24 and and the M50 saw increases in speeds, as well. I wonder how much cherry picking there is. Did they give the B39 because it's the most improved? Or for some other reason (especia…
I parse it as implying that B39 had the highest percentage improvement.
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#17"We made something more expensive to do and you'll never believe that fewer people did it!"
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The poor and working class never drove in Manhattan. It’s too expensive to maintain a car and pay for parking.
With congestion pricing the poor (not to mention all of us) now get to enjoy more efficient and reliable bus travel. This is a net win for the working class.
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They can have it. I'd rather amazing transit oriented development and to enjoy the world on my feet than stuck in a box on an ugly road. Done right, cities designed for people are harder to get around by car even with a personal driver.
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#20Brilliant for many reasons. I hope we see a lot more of this.