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WordPress Is in Trouble

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Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by system2 »

lenova wrote: post #357
lenova wrote: post #25

I've only been passively following the Wordpress drama. Almost a year ago, Mullenweg blogged about taking a 3 month sabbatical that I found interesting, and I assumed this would have been a period of recharging... but things have seemed to gone off the rails since. Was there any correlational between the sabbatical and current drama, or was that just coincidence?

Replying to myself here: why the heck are people assuming Ayahuasca? My comment never implied it, nor has Mullenweg mentioned it.

In business, a sabbatical means either you are quitting, going for a long vacation because you hate your job, or burnt out beyond repair and using fancy words like sabbatical before changing careers. Maybe that's made people think he was going to do drugs to chill.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by system2 »

People keep saying "FORK FORK FORK". You have to remember, that all hosts that are deploying WordPress rely on the main provider. Thousands of hosting companies use WordPress deploying after registration and auto-updating the installations. How are you planning to make this kind of a major change? All the plugins that are in wordpress.org. How will you inform every WordPress site owner to go through this type of transition?

I think this "fork" idea comes from a bizarre cancel/woke culture influence.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by system2 »

egypturnash wrote: post #12

matt please get your brain worms dealt with, thank you - someone who has been happily using wordpress for her site since about 2000

I am not supporting either side, but wpengine is a shit company that treats their customers like they are sheeple. They remove critical functions from the original WordPress, selling $1 worth of hosting for $79. Not providing a "hosting" environment but only providing one site per account (additional sites are billed). This is a shitty hosting platform using WordPress' name and not benefiting WordPress itself.

I had a comment where Matt refused to believe what I said about ACF but this doesn't make me hate him. I don't care about wpengine at all and they can go to hell instead of hurting WordPress any further. They are just using an open-source project to make money and not giving back.

People are fighting with the original creator of the software and supporting 3rd party for-profit companies like wpengine. For what reason? This is clear propaganda.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by system2 »

Tokkemon wrote: post #239

Just this week I needed to completely revamp my personal website. I went with Squarespace because it's quick to spin up and I don't have to fiddle with tons of plugins and a complicated theme ecosystem. I just need a website that works. I used to use Wordpress for all my previous iterations, but now, it's done. Sad to see it become obsolete by not fixing them broader business and user-friendliness problems.

Good luck migrating to another platform when they jack up the prices. You can pick any host for wp and migrate within minutes. With closed systems like wix and Squarespace you are locked in forever.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by lenova »

system2 wrote: post #361
lenova wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replying to myself here: why the heck are people assuming Ayahuasca? My comment never implied it, nor has Mullenweg mentioned it.

In business, a sabbatical means either you are quitting, going for a long vacation because you hate your job, or burnt out beyond repair and using fancy words like sabbatical before changing careers. Maybe that's made people think he was going to do drugs to chill.

But again, a 2 second google search will show that Mullenweg spoke openly about his plans for a sabbatical before taking it, and has spoken about the sabbatical numerous times afterwards on his blogs, on podcasts, and at conferences. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPzdmks-HY

The Ayahuasca comments in this thread are the people putting their own narrative on it, and as the OP of the thread, this was not my intention at all. This thread has just become made-up gossip.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #354
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Or is CGI still a thing and a possible alternative for shared webspaces? I think I just threw up a little, in my mouth... I don't think there's a viable alternative to PHP. The nerds here, hate it (and they aren't really wrong). I hate it, but it is undisputed God Emperor of Cheap Hosting. There's nothing that even comes close, for simplicity, speed, robustness, cost, and ubiquity. There are millions of pages of su…

What's the issue with CGI ?

CGI is fine, but it’s a rather awkward API, and about the worst way to publish a Web site.

I mentioned writing CMSes, and one of them was in Perl (using CGI). I still wake screaming, sometimes, and that was probably 25 years ago.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by throw16180339 »

macspoofing wrote: post #115

Is the entire drama that WordPress is asserting a trademark over 'WPEngine' (i.e. 'WP'), and WPEngine disagrees?

Matt tried to extort money from WP Engine, then blocked their users from receiving updates, stole their plugins, and banned their developers. The filing in WP Engine vs. Automattic gives the details.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by marc_io »

internetter wrote: post #79
jazzyjackson wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The principal use of Wordpress IME experience is so people can add content without learning markdown and git and so on

There are CMSes that work with static site generators. Static site generators do not imply that the input is markdown, though this is often the usecase. Any CMS that is decoupled from presentation, in fact, could be used for static site generation. Just read the structure and generate an appropriate HTML tree statically. Here are some CMSes with specific thought given to this use: https://decapcms.org/ https://getkir…

Publii is another one with static generation capabilities (https://getpublii.com)

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by whycome »

debesyla wrote: post #297
shiftpgdn wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pressable includes support, global caching, and a bunch of other things you won't get on a $5/month VPS. Also not everyone wants to play system administrator 7 days a week to keep their server from getting hijacked or nuked.

True, but shared hosting providers (like hostinger) offers basically the same, but for cheaper and no pricing per website, even on cheaper plans you can fit five or more sites in. Of course, it doesn't matter in the end - as long as users have ability to choose a hosting there will be cheaper and "better" options. Shopyfing wordpress would be worse...

There’s value to users in using a service that’s the same as the software. Trust is worth it to consumers. It’s why many still prefer to take their cars to the dealer rather than an Indy shop
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