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A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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I'm reminded of similarly useless "sustainable cardboard furniture" that came out about a decade ago. On the positive side, kudos to whomever in marketing/pr at the design firm got this useless product so much press. This is just the sort of "win" that a design consulting shop loves to have for actual briefs that lead to real moving-the-needle revenue. One example would be SmartDesign's modular slip-on "S-Grips" that…

LoL. Not only useless but also uncomfortable. My wrists get itchy when looking at those zigzag bevels...

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The Bett 2.0 was one of the most comfortable things I’ve ever slept on. The Grid Bed was useless and fell apart.

Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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The article is seemingly outdated. The cheapest one I could find in the store was 29 USD. In Euros, it’s 36.37. And of course, you still have to pay for shipping. From Korea. This seems quite absurd. Whatever good you do the planet by using something out of recycled paper (thumbs up on the idea) will surely be offset by all the logistics of the shipping. This should have been a tutorial, not a product.

I often see "recycled" or similar as a signal for more expensive. My favorite was when I saw a jam that touted "upcycled" strawberries. When I looked into it, it basically meant that it was made from beat up ugly strawberries that would have been used for animal feed. Surely there would be cost savings in using reject fruit, right? No, an 8oz jar retails for over $8 compared to about half that to an organic no sugar…

I often see "recycled" or similar as a signal for more expensive.

That's just because of this new wave of eco-virtue-signaling that's become popular in the past few years. Before that, recycled meant lower quality and cheaper.

See also: "vegan butter" or "plant-based butter" instead of "hydrogenated vegetable oil".

Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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Fire hazard

I'm hoping you're wrong. I just made a simplified version, which is just the concertina-ed paper without the parallel reverse folds to angle the keyboard up. Its made from a 96gsm a3 sheet.

My reasoning for thinking it's safe is that 451F/230C would probably damage/burn/melt the cheap plastic table it normally sits on.

Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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Oh, I didn't expect that much skepticism. I love the idea and I love companies that are trying to create beautiful and sustainable things. They even try to give people a place that usually don't fit in. Yes, you can fold one yourself (will it be stable enough though?). Yes, I wouldn't use it for a laptop either. But for a tablet it could work really nice. Also shipping it around the world is a bit silly, like with mo…

Sustaining what?

The profits of those companies making these products.

Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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I often see "recycled" or similar as a signal for more expensive. My favorite was when I saw a jam that touted "upcycled" strawberries. When I looked into it, it basically meant that it was made from beat up ugly strawberries that would have been used for animal feed. Surely there would be cost savings in using reject fruit, right? No, an 8oz jar retails for over $8 compared to about half that to an organic no sugar…

Sometimes it's a marketing stunt, but often recycling is more expensive. I mean, recycling a plastic bag is probably more expensive than making one. The unfortunate reality of our financial system is that it often rewards people for doing the wrong thing.

I mean, recycling a plastic bag is probably more expensive than making one.

Collect enough, and you can melt them into solid blocks that could be used like this laptop stand. Recycling common plastic of the same type (PE, PP) is actually easily done with commonly available equipment, unlike paper.

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Oddly enough it now means that canned tomatoes are better than fresh.

Part of that is you can can a tomato right when it is most ripe and ready to be eaten, whereas if you're shipping it to a store, you ship it unripe and hope it ripens somewhat on the way.

Indeed, and they also grow different varieties. The ones destined for the store are bred for shipment and long term storage -- the so called "cardboard tomato."

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This is a bit of a random place to mention it, but while I very much like OXO goods, IKEA makes the best (in my opinion) potato peeler for $5 - cheaper than anything OXO makes: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ikea-365-vaerdefull-potato-peel...

Brilliant write up. I remember using the old ones, and only last year found the oxo model. truly amazing. Many important lessons in product design in that article; with the most important in the last sentence - it has to work!

I think you meant to respond to your grandparent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42686370, not your parent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42686583.

Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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You can't get ergonomics with a (modern) laptop keyboard. Reaching over the touchpad is at best, a compromise. Unfortunately keyboard at the edge + sidemounted trackball is long dead, and keyboard at the edge + pointing stick didn't last a lot longer. Last I used a laptop at a desk on the regular, state of the art laptop stands were reams of printer paper. Worst case, you need to actually use the paper in the printer…

I often observe people at my office using the laptop keyboard and monitor exclusively, while sitting at their desks, even though we are all given external monitors, keyboards and mice. I guess they are young and their bodies don't hurt yet.

I've been doing that for the last 18 years and I started when I was older than most people here. I never liked the mandatory external monitor and keyboard at the company I was working for before becoming self employed: I preferred to look down to a screen, not up or level.
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