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China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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I can’t even imagine how many weird decisions would get made in Elon’s TikTok. I guess this would have been a Twitter-style blessing in terms of killing it, if only its Facebook/YouTube-powered alternatives didn’t exist and we could get rid of short form video for good.

> I can’t even imagine how many weird decisions would get made in Elon’s TikTok. The decisions will be to promote China and to never criticize the Chinese government. Musk thinks China rocks and America is complacent and entitled, especially New Yorkers and Californians: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-ro... Musk advocates for the submission of Taiwan to China: https://www.theguardian.com/te…

I mean most Americans ARE entitled.

Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Corporate social media is population-scale brainwashing in a candy wrapper. Far worse than TV ever was.

Nobody is going to care about the invasion of Taiwan when Musk puts his finger on the algorithm’s scale as a quid pro quo to sell more Teslas abroad.

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If this deal happens, it could redefine how the US-China tech standoff is negotiated... Musk’s involvement would be fascinating - not just for the data implications, but for the precedent it sets: Can a single entrepreneur navigate and mediate two global superpowers’ interests? It also raises the question of whether TikTok, under any ownership, can ever truly escape concerns about data security and political influenc…

Tim Apple does it better though

Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Too much money chasing too few goods in the market causes Inflation

Too much Content chasing limited human Attention is causing very very similar issues.

It took centuries to connect the fact that increasing or decreasing the money supply at a faster or slower rate than goods arriving in the market causes all kinds of chaos. The chaos made it hard to see the connection.

Central banks finally emerged to manage money supply and target a healthy inflation rate.

Handing Attention management off to the platforms is very similar to the state of affair when Kings and individual Banks printed their own money. That provided funding for wars. And created panics, bubbles, bank failures all the time which lead to the reluctant handing over of money printing to Central Banks world wide.

Today thanks to similar dynamics in the Attention Economy we are probably in a hyperinflationary state. As content keeps exploding, it gets harder and harder to be seen or heard unless you "buy more ads", win ad bidding wars, or "pay for visibility".

And guess what?

China can easily "buy more ads", win ad bidding wars, or "pay for visibility" to make things worse. They can/will also just flood the platforms with content via GenAI. Business will be pushed to spend more, Politicians have to raise more and individuals will struggle to focus on anything. Everyone will get exhausted or loose their minds. China or whoever won't have to fire a single shot to trigger collapse.

It doesn't matter who owns platforms if the way platforms manage Attention does not change.

We either need a Central Attention Bank that measures and targets healthy Attention extraction/consumption rates across different content types or Regulation placed on platforms on how Attention is managed (time limits, limits on ads volume, limits on marketing budgets all broken down by different content types (long term value/short term value/no value ie entertainment with individuals deciding the breakup just like they do with money - investments/savings/current etc etc).

Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Musk stands to gain a lot. If China had done the same to Google in China, everyone would have an uproar, but somehow when it's done to a Chinese company, it's okay? Even if I think TikTok is cancer, I am not sure two wrongs makes one right..

Is google not blocked in China anymore? You might want to check in on how western social media is treated by CCP government first before making such statements.

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Musk stands to gain a lot. If China had done the same to Google in China, everyone would have an uproar, but somehow when it's done to a Chinese company, it's okay? Even if I think TikTok is cancer, I am not sure two wrongs makes one right..

Is google not blocked in China anymore? You might want to check in on how western social media is treated by CCP government first before making such statements.

Look, when you do business in a country, you obey that countries law. If you think the law is backwards and incompatible with your business, you don’t operate there, this is what google, fb did. They CHOOSE to not operate in china because they are not able to meet the requirements.

TikTok has met all requirements to operate based on the us law. It still got banned.

That’s a big difference. If data security is a concern the country should have rules regulate how foreign companies handle its citizens data, and it should apply to all companies.

Re: China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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Many TikTok users are signing up for RedNote, an actual Chinese social media app. US users consider this a better option than American offerings such as Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube.

While Chinese developers are focused on building great products, US developers are focused on pushing politics. As a result, the Chinese apps are clearly more desirable for users.

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