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Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ismail »

hluska wrote: post #300
ismail wrote: post #284

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Really, the H accusation card?

Point noted. I should have prefixed it with zionist Israelis.

There are Israelis that have been awakened to the truth (see BT Salem, Ilan Pappe milo peled etc)

Also many former American Jewish Zionists [1] see Israelism film. You can also watch this to understand how these ideas and misinformation is propagated at an industrial scale.

You will note I clearly specified Zionist , which is an inherently racist/supremicist ideology. Akin to aparthied in South Africa.

[1] https://youtu.be/Iq6J7Q6L0yw?si=8GJXsENLxRfj3aSp

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by nottorp »

treyd wrote: post #252
nottorp wrote: post #55

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You mean there aren't already 20 unfinished projects reimplementing Wordpress in Rust?

Not yet there aren't. Perhaps we should form a committee to start a few and ensure that none of them actually have thr critical mass go succeed!

There's no need. Most "rewrite in Rust" projects implement some basic functionality and miss the other 90%, get posted here for self promotion and then get abandoned don't they?

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by lolinder »

lupire wrote: post #266
harikb wrote: post #261

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Here is an alternate possibility 1. They introduced a checkbox for "users to confirm that they are not affiliated with WP Engine" 2. A court ordered Automattic to reverse course 3. Developer thought it was easy to quickly just change the text rather than make code changes. Let us not say people are crazy when there are alternate narratives

That's likely to corrupt the database backend, which now appears to store old "non WP Engine" affirmations in the same location as new "pineapple pizza" affirmations. How will they be able to distinguish?

No, the server-visible name has changed.

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Post by johannes1234321 »

legitster wrote: post #246
dangrossman wrote: post #86

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I don't think it's a mental breakdown, I think this is a (poorly executed) long pivot into Matt's companies having tighter control over the ecosystem and keeping more of the profits from hosting, plugin and theme sales. He's burning down "the community" on purpose. In a couple years, it'll be run more like Shopify, where the theme store and app store only list products that run their billing through Shopify and give…

One thing to keep in mind, WordPress being open source was an afterthought. It inherited a GPL from b2/cafelog. If Matt woke up one morning and decided he wanted to make WordPress closed source, he couldn't. But what he could do is force everyone to pay a license fee for the name, and anyone who did not pay he publicly makes hell for them. You could also pretend to encourage them to fork, knowing full well they would…

He drives the project long enough that probably no b2 code remains. He could have prepared and take a contributor agreement or some other measures to allow relicensing.

Question however is, whether auch a scheme would have made WordPress successful, or if it thrives from the community, where many assumed that everybody plays on the same field via GPL.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by lolinder »

legitster wrote: post #246
dangrossman wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's a mental breakdown, I think this is a (poorly executed) long pivot into Matt's companies having tighter control over the ecosystem and keeping more of the profits from hosting, plugin and theme sales. He's burning down "the community" on purpose. In a couple years, it'll be run more like Shopify, where the theme store and app store only list products that run their billing through Shopify and give…

One thing to keep in mind, WordPress being open source was an afterthought. It inherited a GPL from b2/cafelog. If Matt woke up one morning and decided he wanted to make WordPress closed source, he couldn't. But what he could do is force everyone to pay a license fee for the name, and anyone who did not pay he publicly makes hell for them. You could also pretend to encourage them to fork, knowing full well they would…

He can also just stop open sourcing his company's work on the product. WordPress is GPL, not AGPL, so they can make any changes you want and use them on Automattic's platforms without ever releasing code to the community again.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by pacifika »

tylershuster wrote: post #196

I don't understand how (if?) WordPress has popularity among serious professionals. Extending it without plugins, many of which are paid, is a nightmare. Adding custom fields is laborious, configuring post type display modes is a slog as well. HN seems to grumble about Drupal but even if your only requirement is a PHP server with a MySQL database connect, Drupal (8+) is just as simple to set up as WordPress and infini…

Serious professionals write their own plugins or keep a known good list, review plugins before installing them etc.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by kibwen »

satvikpendem wrote: post #268
kedean wrote: post #218

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He's doing it in a way that feels suspiciously like a breakdown to me. The latest "we're restricting our contributions to 45 hours a week to match WPEngine" is the the reaction of a college student who is mad at their lab partner, not of an establish business that helped build the internet as we know it.

Lots of executives at big companies can be petty though, it's nothing new when one is in power and surrounds themselves with yes men. It doesn't mean they're necessarily having a breakdown at all.

What you've observed, quite accurately, is that our bar for emotional intelligence when it comes to corporate executives is the same that we expect from ten-year olds.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ismail »

hluska wrote: post #300
ismail wrote: post #284

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Some samples of misinformation at the highest levels. There are many more, here are some of the more recent ones:

False claims of beheaded babies, reports of babies burnt in ovens.

Even more nefarious , are the psyops influence campaigns (both against own citizens [1]) and against American's [2]

[1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-admits-psychological-warfa...

[2] https://www.wired.com/story/israel-us-disinformation-us-lawm...

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by carlosjobim »

debesyla wrote: post #313
carlosjobim wrote: post #201

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Every ecommerce requirement is better served by iframes than by WordPress plugins.

Sorry, how would shopping cart (list of products to be soon bought) in an iframe is "better" than outputting it straight to the page HTML? Wouldn't it make it hard to design it?

There's almost always an iframe solution for your industry, no matter what you're selling online. If you're selling accommodation, it's Sirvoy. If you're selling events it's TicketTailor, if you're selling restaurant tables or food delivery, there's countless iframe solutions. For other things, there's Shopify and more. There's always a better iframe alternative to Wordpress, that is easier to develop, easier and cheaper for the client, easier for the customer, and safer from hacking. Usually without any maintenance at all.

Or if you're really making some big time e-commerce stuff, then you're better off with bespoke solutions than something hacked together with WordPress.

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