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Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by mrtksn » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:25 PM UTC

ben_w wrote: post #47

mrtksn wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did he drink that psychoactive wine?

Surely non-psychoactive wine is just grape juice?

right, let’s try again: Did he drink THAT psychoactive wine?

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by frereubu » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:25 PM UTC

blueaquilae wrote: post #42

Is this just an add for another paid CMS?

Might be an ad - I'm not aware of the author's associations - but Craft CMS, which is linked to, has a free version like wordpress.org

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by imilk » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:26 PM UTC

noja wrote: post #23

https://getpublii.com/ Yet, anyone?

While they have a Github repo, it is incredibly annoying how it's almost impossible to find any documentation around deployment/hosting. Unless I missing an obvious page

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by pwillia7 » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:27 PM UTC

Spunkie wrote: post #24

Crazy how hosting wordpress, between 2003-2024, your main concern was Chinese/Russian hackers. And in 2025 you main concern should be if Mullenweg will hijack your website for his pissing match. Also he didn't shut down the sustainability team because he "didn't know about it". He shut it down because their stated goals are a threat to Mullenwegs dictatorship hold over wordpress.

Almost to the letter -- https://www.dalmomendonca.com/rules-for-rulers

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by nottorp » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:27 PM UTC

hombre_fatal wrote: post #41

treyd wrote: post #32

WordPress is a very mature project with a long legacy but I'm surprised that there hasn't been a larger profile attempt to make a spiritual successor to it that can shake the baggage of being PHP and the long history of vulns that have come along with it. I'm imagining some very pluggable and template driven runtime that you can ship very declarative packages for. The spicy take would be to use a Scheme for the templ…

It's just a reminder how much "right place at the right time" plays into the phenomenon of ubiquity, from Wordpress to Harry Potter to Zoom to Javascript. There are countless efforts to make the next Wordpress out there, yet no combination of Scheme and Rust is going to make up for the critical missing ingredient of "right place at the right time".

You mean there aren't already 20 unfinished projects reimplementing Wordpress in Rust?

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by cm2012 » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:27 PM UTC

softwaredoug wrote: post #50

pluc wrote: post #11

Mullenweg is in trouble, WordPress is gonna be fine. https://gist.github.com/adrienne/aea9dd7ca19c8985157d9c42f7f...

Without a canonical fork for the community (and crucially plugin authors) to rally around it’ll be a bit like Linux distros without a shared executable format, making life difficult for everyone and making it harder to keep critical mass for any vendor.

A few folks with a lot of community rep could probably do a lot of good if they to threw support behind a new primary fork.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by raverbashing » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:27 PM UTC

hombre_fatal wrote: post #41

treyd wrote: post #32

WordPress is a very mature project with a long legacy but I'm surprised that there hasn't been a larger profile attempt to make a spiritual successor to it that can shake the baggage of being PHP and the long history of vulns that have come along with it. I'm imagining some very pluggable and template driven runtime that you can ship very declarative packages for. The spicy take would be to use a Scheme for the templ…

It's just a reminder how much "right place at the right time" plays into the phenomenon of ubiquity, from Wordpress to Harry Potter to Zoom to Javascript. There are countless efforts to make the next Wordpress out there, yet no combination of Scheme and Rust is going to make up for the critical missing ingredient of "right place at the right time".

And honestly WP is a great product. No other CMS managed to get so much community around, so many plugins etc

Right timing absolutely, but there was also great product sense there

Drupal feels like it's a bureaucrats paradise. Other CMSs never got there neither

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by esher » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:27 PM UTC

pryelluw wrote: post #5

At this point, I’m planning to move away from Wordpress due to the instability and into a regular wiki based site. Unsure of which at the moment, maybe some suggestions? Prefer static file based rather than host a DB.

PHP based static file CMS (w/o database) to render markdown on the fly:

* Kirby: https://getkirby.com/ * Grav: https://getgrav.org/ * Statamic: https://statamic.com/

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by renewiltord » Mon, Jan 13, 2025, 8:28 PM UTC

Hard to care about this drama until it starts to affect functionality. Terraform is still around. Elastic is still around. Reddit and Twitter have no third party apps. I used to have a WordPress blog which I stopped updating for reasons of laziness. I will try to restore the backup and see what happens.