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How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Those reasons seem to make sense but I'd say just as much has to do with Buster Keaton himself, he had nerves of steel. During the filming of the Civil War movie The General there are images of Keaton doing things that even the bravest of stuntmen wouldn't do these days and we'd now rely on film animation and tricks to make the scenes work. For instance, Keaton—who obviously was very fit and agile—is filmed sitting o…

My favourite Keaton movie is the one near his end where he goes across Canada by hand crank car on rail roads.

"The railrodder" (1965)

Kenton died 1966

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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For those who don't know, Keaton was amazingly dedicated as a comedic stuntman - a silent era Jackie Chan (he was less popular after the silent era, but kept working until his death in the 60s). From Wikipedia: Garry Moore recalled, "I asked (Keaton) how he did all those falls, and he said, 'I'll show you.' He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to…

> He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to care."

It reminds me of the glass eating trick by David Blaine, where the trick is to… just eat glass. It makes it quite bittersweet, as after all, those men are trading some of their wellbeing for some of their fame. Not sure how to feel about it.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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For those who don't know, Keaton was amazingly dedicated as a comedic stuntman - a silent era Jackie Chan (he was less popular after the silent era, but kept working until his death in the 60s). From Wikipedia: Garry Moore recalled, "I asked (Keaton) how he did all those falls, and he said, 'I'll show you.' He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to…

I saw a Jackie Chan interview years ago (20 or so) in which he said Keaton was an inspiration.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I'm surprised there's no mention yet of the incredible scene from the 1980 film "The Blues Brothers". https://youtu.be/QfN1GRqKXpM?si=-4Mwmipl5sCFtCWN This practical effect took weeks to set up. I can't find documentation specifying any special techniques used to create this version of the car. I recall reading an interview naming the builder who set it up, and how no one on set was allowed to touch it except the act…

It's a very nice scene, but not as good as the 2CV from Le Corniaud.

Also looking at it closely, you can see at the camera angle change that the car is not the same (roof shape cut, rear door a bit open, ...), and that it is not standing on its wheels with supports appearing below

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Those reasons seem to make sense but I'd say just as much has to do with Buster Keaton himself, he had nerves of steel. During the filming of the Civil War movie The General there are images of Keaton doing things that even the bravest of stuntmen wouldn't do these days and we'd now rely on film animation and tricks to make the scenes work. For instance, Keaton—who obviously was very fit and agile—is filmed sitting o…

I found the movie interesting in that they managed to make the Confederates the good guys by simply never showing a Black person on screen or mentioning slavery. There were a few good stunts and it was worth watching as a historical curiosity, but I didn't think it was all that good as a movie. I'm not American, so may have missed some things that would have let me follow the story better.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks wit…

By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks wit…

By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

Was one 20 years ago, Citroen c5 or c3 or something. Maybe still is.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks wit…

By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

I guess the answer depends on which aspect of the 2CV is being replicated in the new version.

If its "outrageously small but can still take you and a goose to market", Citroën have a tiny little electric vehicle, the Ami, today.

If its "something simple enough that a farmer can weld the panels themselves", I fear those days are long gone, in the same way that the OG Land Rover Defender is no longer a car you can wrench on. The spiritual heir of such cars is probably a toyota hilux(?). Modern safety standards and the presence of complex electronics beneath every surface, to say nothing of the more complex sheet metal shapes, probably stop that idea in its tracks.

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