Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

rachelbythebay.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 139 posts

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#81

Post by playa06 »

sunshowers wrote: post #46
pessimizer wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If wanting to kill yourself over your sex isn't mental illness, I have no idea why insurance or the state should be concerned about it. We're not collectively paying for flat-chested women to get breast implants, or ugly men to get nose jobs, although they both may be upset about their bodies. We're also not labeling it as "life-saving." I don't understand how we can insist that these conditions are both the worst me…

Is pregnancy an illness, mental or otherwise? Should insurance or the state not cover the medical costs of pregnancy? What are your credentials, anyway? Why do you think you know more than decades of in depth research and millennia of anthropological evidence?

> Should insurance or the state not cover the medical costs of pregnancy?

Do you think pro-natalist policies (anything that can be seen as incentivizing the act of having more children) need to come from a desire to see more equality, or human dignity?

In fact some of the most evil people of the 1900s thought it was good to support the medical costs of pregnancy, and even thought you should /pay families if they had more children to incentivize having more/ (see pro natalist politics in Western Europe in 30s, 40s, 50s. The ones in my country, France, actually had their strongest push in 1939, and are a large part of the reason why France's baby boom was one of the strongest in Europe later on).

You will find out that people who usually hate social programs will have different opinions about anything related to demographics, and it's not complicated to understand why (whether their motives come from racism, or selfishness ie a desire to preserve the GDP and make sure the country won't be an empty hell hole of old people dying in the hospice when they retire).

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#82

Post by llm_trw »

mandevil wrote: post #80
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your notion of “private people” is entirety arbitrary and is an obvious loophole for abusing the system by depriving some of their rights.

And yet, it carries legal meaning in the US, thanks to NY Times v. Sullivan and Gertz v. Robert Welch Inc. This is not GP's "notion" this is an actual thing under US law that the US Supreme Court created back in the 1960's. As with all rights, it depends on the country, but in the US Public Figure Doctrine (and the concept of a Limited Purpose Public Figure) are both real things, with a court deciding if Public Figur…

Kant must have been a hell of a philosopher that he could not only predict the laws of the US two centuries after his death, but also use them as a basis for his philosophy.

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#83

Post by mkl »

Izkata wrote: post #78
mkl wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is using watch you have no control* over when in each second it's getting the time, so it could be nearly a second late (e.g. it's getting the time once per second, but happens to be doing it when it's a few milliseconds away from ticking over to the next second). * Okay, you have a little control in that you can press enter, or otherwise set it running, at a particular moment.

So don't have any delay: while true; do date +%s%N; done

There's still a delay with that, as date takes time to run. You need a program that gets the current time, waits an appropriate amount, prints, and repeats. It'll still be slightly off unless you can measure the printing and flow control accurately.

I have a program I use in shell scripting called sleepuntil that does something like this, but it doesn't try to be millisecond-accurate.

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#84

Post by playa06 »

gortok wrote: post #50
llm_trw wrote: post #35

That policy change reads like a more liberal version of Obama's first term compaign platform on social issues. Lets not pretend that the current climate in SF isn't both way outside the Overton window for most of rest of the US and most of California until ten years ago.

With this comment you seem to be putting the Overton window farther right than I’ve seen it in recent memory —- outside of very rural areas.

> farther right than I’ve seen it in recent memory —- outside of very rural areas.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/985183/size-urban-rural-...

>>In 2023, there were approximately 55.94 million people living in rural areas in the United States, while about 278.98 million people were living in urban areas

If Trump won, it couldn't have been solely because of people in the boonies, who represent a much smaller proportion of total demographics. The same goes for Brexit, and all the happenings that have been shifting Western societies as a whole towards the far right.

This sort of obliviousness is not helpful in fixing the situation. Same energy as the media acting like Trump could never possibly become POTUS. These incompetents are getting in positions of power because the left and moderate right are, it seems, still not perceiving what is going on outside of their very specific bubbles.

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#85

Post by nonrandomstring »

mkl wrote: post #83
Izkata wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So don't have any delay: while true; do date +%s%N; done

There's still a delay with that, as date takes time to run. You need a program that gets the current time, waits an appropriate amount, prints, and repeats. It'll still be slightly off unless you can measure the printing and flow control accurately. I have a program I use in shell scripting called sleepuntil that does something like this, but it doesn't try to be millisecond-accurate.

The problem that I noticed is if you open two terms on different hosts (say by ssh) and run watch commands then, regardless of resolution, they'll be out of sync. There's no hard tick event common to both kernels. And as someone already said, you introduce sampling effects.

So I figured you need a time "diff", a single command that updates from both timeservers and then presents the offset in a single operation. So (I just researched this again and) there's three answers here [0], using ntpdate and something I've never seen before called clockdiff.

[0] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2296981/how-can-i-work-o...

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#86

Post by forgetfreeman »

antonvs wrote: post #65
pessimizer wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's important is that we break these companies up so they aren't used as tools by the powerful. Neither Zuckerberg's or Musk's income streams should be allowed to have such an important effect on everyone's lives, but as long as these communication companies are allowed to exchange their obedience for a regime's lack of antitrust enforcement, our 1st Amendment rights are meaningless. > This is why it's important n…

A functioning government is not possible as long as money is speech, corporations are people, etc. That directly translates to government by the wealthiest people.

I've noticed a distinct trend in the last month where even the most casual mention of the oligarchy attracts a bunch of downvotes. I'm trying to decide if this is an indication that some cohort of users here are deeply and passionately delusional about the political state of play, or merely uncomfortable about having it pointed out.

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#88

Post by dkdbejwi383 »

bdangubic wrote: post #48
thenaturalist wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like any freedom in an interconnected society, freedom of speech and expression is not absolute, but limited when it infringes on other rights: right not to be insulted or discriminated against. It's really a rather simple concept entirely void of cencorship. In case of more interest, Kant is a good source for educating oneself: > Kant holds in contrast that there is no innate right to unlimited freedom but only an i…

(un)fortunately Kant is not one of the Founding Fathers :)

There's a whole world outside of the USA.

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#89

Post by rcarmo »

aikinai wrote: post #45
vlovich123 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wtf is this comment in relation to? Certainly not the article which is about a strictly technical issue or how to deploy time smearing for the first time.

Read to the end. The time smearing article was just a clever ruse to set up her political jab.

The fact that she has the experience (and the stories) to set it up in the first place more than makes up for it, IMHO.

Re: Pushing the whole company into the past on purpose

#90

Post by DecoySalamander »

noobermin wrote: post #87

I wish I wasn't so stupid or unlucky. In another life I could be doing amazing shit like rachel by the bay instead of pushing code no one cares about and rushing deadlines only to get paid late.

"Amazing shit" like devops or bad political puns? Surely it's not too late for you to try either or both.
Post reply on HN