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Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

I find that the words used are equally ridiculous: "League", ...

To be fair, the following all get a lot of congressional hearing time:

* American League

* National League

* National Football League

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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I totally agree that the cat/league/etc. is ridiculous. The problem is not with old style senators. The problem is with the 95% of the general population that is confused or turned off by it. You're trying to convince the general electorate, which then determines who gets elected. It does feel like a little club of geeks, which is not effective as a movement that aims to convince/beyond that circle.

Honestly, the 95% of the general population is the percent that still throws around cat pictures as though they're the newest and greatest things. My mother is often sending me cute animal pictures that were popular in the 90's and early 2000's.

We start it, early adopters. The mass picks up on it after a few years, only if it gets started in the first place.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Whoa whoa whoa... Don't act like signing up on a website is equivalent to doing something. It's literally the absolute least you could do.

No, the least you could do is make snarky comments about the people who are actually trying to do something. This isn't about 'signing up' for a website. This is about trying to mobilize a group of people that often times is not that involved with politics. The idea is that when you sign up, you'll take action on the items that the site informs you about. There is literally nothing like this on the internet for this…

Like us on Facebook to SAVE THE INTERNET!

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

As if an "old style Senator" would base his support for or against a bill on a website's design. This is about engaging young nerds and non-nerds, average citizens and making an impact on main stream media. It's a marketing and PR stunt. It will trigger media coverage and thousands of phone calls... politicians fear at least one of those two things like the plague. And it's probably not the phone calls. We already ha…

...and the EFF hasn't been all that wildly successful at bringing the mass of cute-cat-photo-loving 'net users into the issue.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

I find that the words used are equally ridiculous: "League", ... To be fair, the following all get a lot of congressional hearing time: * American League * National League * National Football League

* League of Women Voters

* Anti-Defamation League

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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No, the least you could do is make snarky comments about the people who are actually trying to do something. This isn't about 'signing up' for a website. This is about trying to mobilize a group of people that often times is not that involved with politics. The idea is that when you sign up, you'll take action on the items that the site informs you about. There is literally nothing like this on the internet for this…

> We stopped SOPA This is what I'm worried about. Who really stopped SOPA? You can bet that anyone who signs up for this will go around touting how they stopped SOPA, just like the guy next to me pretty much single handedly saved Haiti in 2010 with his $5 donation to the Red Cross. There is a disparity between giving money so that others can continue to do work and being the one doing the work. I want that distinctio…

Why? Why do you need to make those distinctions? The doctor couldn't fly to Haiti if he hadn't been funded. You need a lot of different pieces working together to make big change.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Honestly, the 95% of the general population is the percent that still throws around cat pictures as though they're the newest and greatest things. My mother is often sending me cute animal pictures that were popular in the 90's and early 2000's.

We start it, early adopters. The mass picks up on it after a few years, only if it gets started in the first place.

Exactly!
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