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EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Post by rapind »

victork2 wrote: post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

35? Really? I'm over 35 as are most of my friends, and I seriously doubt any of them are going to be scratching their head at the cat reference. Suggesting we would is a little insulting to be honest. Not to mention the Justice League play is more my generation than yours. I think you need to up your age boundary a bit. Maybe 45, and even then...

Anyways, all of you youngsters who get the cat signal are certainly capable of calling or writing your local representative. I'll cheer for anything that raises awareness and reduces apathy among my generation and yours.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Post by ondrae »

victork2 wrote: post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

Where is your internet defense league?

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Post by wmeredith »

dotborg wrote: post #13

"bad monopolies".. so which monopolies are good?

Major League Baseball and the NFL are government sanctioned and enforced monopolies because breaking up the talent into competing leagues would be be ad for the sport.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Post by mcguire »

victork2 wrote: post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

I think you're looking at it from the wrong side. I believe the point of the goofy "league" and cat are to bring in sites, which are mostly made up of reddit'ors and weird-ass-looking-cat lovers. Once the sites are onboard and the "league" sends out the "signal", this site has to attract the users, who are the redditors and cheezburger-ites. Some small, minuscule fraction of those will do things like call their senators, resulting in tied-up phone lines, angry recriminations, and general panic.[1] That is what your old-style Senator is going to take seriously.

The organizational style is very similar to that of other organizations that attempt to motivate constituents like the NRA and AARP and if you really want to spend some time boggling, check out their communications to their constituency.

In other words, the "general public" is not the target here. Neither are representatives, directly. The target is the "Z generation"[2], which are underrepresented in political debates, I think. And if you want them to do something, you probably want to use some memes.

[1] That's hyperbole, but I do suspect that if .01% of the American readers of icanhascheezburger were to call their representatives,

[2] "Z generation"? I prefer to think of it as "Force Z".

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#56

Post by waterlesscloud »

rapind wrote: post #51
victork2 wrote: post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

35? Really? I'm over 35 as are most of my friends, and I seriously doubt any of them are going to be scratching their head at the cat reference. Suggesting we would is a little insulting to be honest. Not to mention the Justice League play is more my generation than yours. I think you need to up your age boundary a bit. Maybe 45, and even then... Anyways, all of you youngsters who get the cat signal are certainly cap…

Kids today. People over 35 invented internet culture.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#58

Post by lmm »

dholowiski wrote: post #32

Just donated - now a member. Will be installing the code on my blog. If you think this is stupid and ridiculous, what exactly are you doing to save the Internet? [edit]I just became an EFF member too.

>If you think this is stupid and ridiculous, what exactly are you doing to save the Internet?

I'm holding my rock. It keeps internet-killers away.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#59

Post by alex_c »

lukejduncan wrote: post #28
nikcub wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

use a browser that blocks third party cookies by default. safari does, opera does and google has an option buried somewhere 9 clicks away in the settings.

I think the poster has a legitimate point. As an end user you can protect yourself, but as an organization that cares about Internet freedom it's a legitimate concern to consider: "Are we enabling tracking through the use of our advocacy, and if so can we avoid that." Although, I wouldn't go so far as to say that I can't take them seriously because they decided to use the buttons.

And this is why movements fail, because everyone wants to add their own agenda.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that privacy is not a worthwhile concern, but this movement seems to be about protecting the Internet from government abuse, not about privacy practices of private companies. Sure, it could be about both, but that would dilute the message and create a handicap, especially if it means having to avoid some of the primary methods of communication online.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Post by rapind »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #56
rapind wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

35? Really? I'm over 35 as are most of my friends, and I seriously doubt any of them are going to be scratching their head at the cat reference. Suggesting we would is a little insulting to be honest. Not to mention the Justice League play is more my generation than yours. I think you need to up your age boundary a bit. Maybe 45, and even then... Anyways, all of you youngsters who get the cat signal are certainly cap…

Kids today. People over 35 invented internet culture.

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