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The relationship recession is going global

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Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by strobeflier »

retskrad wrote: post #4

If people took a minute to put their phones away and looked around once in a while, they’d notice that males and females tend to self-segregate, with the vast majority of each gender spending time only with others of their own gender. This behaviour is constant in schools, parties, coffee shops, you name it. I’ve traveled extensively around the world, and I’ve observed the same patterns everywhere. Males and females…

I don’t know about “vast majority”. Mixed-gender friend groups are also very common, especially in larger metros. The two cultural shifts currently happening are 1. Loss of interest in “third spaces” (clubs, church) for mingling and 2. widening political divide between the genders.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by api »

We are letting the most pathological idiots — incels, femcels, masculinity grifters, misogynists and misandrists, trolls — shape a whole generation’s views on gender dynamics and relationships.

Of course I guess it’s like other fields. Antivaxxers and people who think you can cure cancer with a juice cleanse lead health discourse. Conspiritainment grifters and unhinged fanatics shape politics.

Why?

This needs to be etched somewhere on a giant stone monument: trash maximizes engagement.

If you optimize any media for maximum engagement by the maximum number of people, you get trash. Two people walk past you on the street. One says “hi,” and the other smears themselves with peanut butter and clucks like a chicken. Which one maximizes engagement?

Edit: I forgot porn. That’s a factor too and another way to maximize engagement that gives people ridiculous unrealistic views on sex.

This has always been true. It’s why “yellow journalism” was a term and why tabloids have always existed and why so much TV was always trash. But we’ve gotten so good at it with personalized feeds and algorithms that it’s become far too addictive and powerful. It’s becoming reality for too many people. This is an existential risk to our civilization at this point.

Banning TikTok is a start. Now do all the other ones.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by runsWphotons »

retskrad wrote: post #4

If people took a minute to put their phones away and looked around once in a while, they’d notice that males and females tend to self-segregate, with the vast majority of each gender spending time only with others of their own gender. This behaviour is constant in schools, parties, coffee shops, you name it. I’ve traveled extensively around the world, and I’ve observed the same patterns everywhere. Males and females…

Why is this flagged?

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by runsWphotons »

pavlov wrote: post #5
retskrad wrote: post #4

If people took a minute to put their phones away and looked around once in a while, they’d notice that males and females tend to self-segregate, with the vast majority of each gender spending time only with others of their own gender. This behaviour is constant in schools, parties, coffee shops, you name it. I’ve traveled extensively around the world, and I’ve observed the same patterns everywhere. Males and females…

> “People act as if voicing these observations out loud automatically places you in the ‘incel’ category.” Quite the strawman. Does anybody claim that? Women would certainly agree that social circles everywhere tend to be genderized. And part of the reason is a vicious cycle: men are not used to spending time with women, so they easily misunderstand the situation and get sexual or romantic ideas that are not reciproc…

What?

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by Muromec »

matt3210 wrote: post #6

Relationships are work. People are lazy. They work hard enough just to keep rent paid and the power on.

People were always lazy. What changed is being okay with being single compared to dealing with the least effort the other part puts into it (you yourself always put enough effort of course).

Call it unrealistic expectations and blame social media or empowerment and celebrate it or whatever. In the end somebody finds a way to feed on the resulting discontent and everybody is worse off as a result.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by Muromec »

nozzlegear wrote: post #16
matt3210 wrote: post #6

Relationships are work. People are lazy. They work hard enough just to keep rent paid and the power on.

Relationships have always been work, and people have always worked hard. So what's changed?

Same thing as with teen girls mental health. Everything is not enough, everything is a red flag, every partner is toxic, every parent is a narcissist. All men are rapists, all immigrants are stealing jobs AND leeching on welfare. Echo chambers everywhere to divide and conquer.

And the worst part -- we chatting here and being smart are the ones who built it all to pay our own bills.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by bryanlarsen »

miohtama wrote: post #9
glimshe wrote: post #8

We were sold a model where having a career is the most important thing in life, at the expense of family and relationships. Because of that, the world gets richer but unhappier. Additionally, local human contact has been replaced by a world of upvotes by strangers with quirky online names. We need to work on figuring out how we can get the undeniable benefits of modern technologies without forgetting our biological n…

Career and grinding is not a goal, but is needed to afford an house and money to help your parents. Apartment prices relative to income have gone greatly up. Thus, more grinding needed and some low wage occupations are priced out from the market altogether. The question is why apartment prices keep going up and can we stop it.

Apartment rental prices have dropped for the last three months in a row in Canada.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Post by [deleted] »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #19
miohtama wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Career and grinding is not a goal, but is needed to afford an house and money to help your parents. Apartment prices relative to income have gone greatly up. Thus, more grinding needed and some low wage occupations are priced out from the market altogether. The question is why apartment prices keep going up and can we stop it.

Apartment rental prices have dropped for the last three months in a row in Canada.

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