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> Because even if you "win", you now have all of those lovely legal bills that the lawyer sends you Oh come on, that's like saying when you involve engineers to build a bridge, the only people who wins are the engineers because you have to pay them.
Engineers don't get paid more when a project gets further delayed.
time & materials is a standard way engineering contracts are done
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You've obviously never worked in consulting.
I've never considered the run of the mill management consultants as engineers, and yeah, I haven't worked in/as a technical consultant.
Consulting is when you're hired to advise someone else on a task, right? I'm not sure what service an outside engineer offers except consulting services.
Someone who says they were OP's teaching assistant for this project replied on LinkedIn (seems trustworthy) > JD, this has just been brought to my attention. I was the CSE 403 TA in charge of this project last quarter, and while I don't have the full context of how the site developed after the quarter ended and the token request, hearing this I am genuinely baffled and do not understand in the slightest what the UW h…
It looks to me like OP went berserk instead of resolving a misunderstanding peacefully. There could be multiple potential misunderstandings.
Someone seems to have overreacted on the UW side causing OP to overreact. And then HN potentially overreacted as well. Each overreaction compounds the previous one causing exponential overreaction.
Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…
> I feel terrible writing this. But here we are. Today UW issued an official statement that was obviously targeting me and sent it to the media. In their statement they point to the "Tampering & Abuse" policies outlined on the registrar's website. This is presumably to draw attention to this emphasized text: "Additionally, the creation of any service that enables any of the above behaviors is strictly forbidden and constitutes a violation of this policy." But this afternoon a university employee reached out to let me know that this text was literally added today. You can confirm for yourself by looking at the previous version (December 8 until today) at https://lnkd.in/ge4XCh8Z. Some people have been understandably skeptical about my story. This development doesn't provide evidence to refute their claims, but this should give you some context on how they're treating me. I just want them to remove my registration hold so I can graduate after next quarter and move on with my life. But I am definitely not meeting with the administration for a disciplinary struggle session when I am more confident than ever that I haven't violated any rules.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jdkaim_github-jdkaimhuskyswap...
It contains a statement from the university as well:
> "On occasion, the Registrar will place a temporary registration hold in order to prompt a meeting with a student about a potential policy violation. This is standard practice." Victor Balta, UW Spokesperson
See also the dedicated submission of the news report: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42658766
> Thanks for your inquiry and for the opportunity to clarify this situation and our general approach to potential student conduct violations. Federal law does not allow UW to comment on matters regarding specific students, but I can provide some general information regarding UW policy and practice.
> Since you asked about swapping classes, I will tell you that students are reminded at the start of each academic year that trading, selling, or buying spots is a breach of the Registration Tampering Abuse Policy. Consequences may include referral to the Student Code of Conduct process, a Registrar's Hold on their record, and potential diploma withholding for graduating students until the conduct process is complete.
> On occasion, the Registrar will place a temporary registration hold in order to prompt a meeting with a student about a potential policy violation. This is standard practice.
> The Office of the University Registrar does not oversee Student Code of Conduct processes. Any corrective actions are only considered once a student conduct investigation has been completed and there has been a finding of wrongdoing. The Office of the University Registrar does not make threats regarding disciplinary action, other than to state what potential consequences could be for violating policy.
> Furthermore, the UW cannot and would not aim to effectively steal intellectual property from a student. There have been instances where a student's class project has turned into a potentially useful tool that UW-IT could help them develop into something that could serve other students. In any such case, appropriate partnership, ownership or credit for such a collaboration would be determined jointly with the student.
Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…
Update on the Update: > I feel terrible writing this. But here we are. Today UW issued an official statement that was obviously targeting me and sent it to the media. In their statement they point to the "Tampering & Abuse" policies outlined on the registrar's website. This is presumably to draw attention to this emphasized text: "Additionally, the creation of any service that enables any of the above behaviors is st…
> I am so grateful for all the moral support I’ve received from the community. My friends have been there for me, and I never expected people who didn’t even know me to reach out with so much encouragement. It’s been an overwhelming experience and I’m going to grow from it.
> I’m sorry if you reached out to me and I haven’t followed up yet. I’ve been dealing with this while trying to ramp on week 1 of a 17-credit workload that includes 3 400-level CS classes. I’m thinking of asking for some content writing credits for the time invested in all of this, but probably not until things have cooled off . I hope to be completely caught up by the end of the weekend.
-- https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jdkaim_github-jdkaimhuskyswap...
He's being allowed to continue graduating.
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The lawyer emails someone higher up, otherwise the higher up will simply smash the hammer harder to protect against liability. Showing up without representation here is a mark of unseriousness. Adult businesspeople always have lawyers do the fighting for them; if you don’t it says more about you than the fight.
That’s just not true dude. Most professional adults try to resolve things amicably before immediately getting lawyers involved.
Almost all things resolved via lawyers are resolved professionally without a trial or a fight. This is literally the primary function of lawyers: to interface with the other party's lawyers and find a mutually consensual resolution to a problem without compromising your own rights and entitlements.
Showing up without a professional sends a clear signal to the other party that you're not interested in doing the minimum to protect your rights and ensure that the other party doesn't steamroller you, which incentivizes the other party to trample your rights and steamroller you, because there's a likelihood that you haven't been advised of your rights in full and don't have an immediate and convenient path to enforcing your rights against the counterparty. It's bush league.
Get a lawyer. Have the lawyer handle it. "Handle it" doesn't mean an immediate lawsuit, it's simply the way professional organizations indicate to other professional organizations that actions have consequences. No lawyer means you don't intend to cause them any consequences, which means you're ignore-able.
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It's an unintended consequence of the system being so laughably out of date and so poorly designed it doesn't support waitlists. Allowing infinitely large waitlists for a given class - which even in the most convoluted legacy system imaginable is not that big of a challenge - and trading disappears overnight. It's not a problem for the university directly, and fixing it would cost money, so there's no incentive to do…
it's a disgrace that a university administrator makes over a million a year... in a public school to boot
People complain about Teacher Unions all the time but I would hazard that the problem is the creeping middle management.