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I don't get the joke or are you actually suggesting a significant number of homeless people are so by choice?
My comment was about how tolerance affects the way homelessness is viewed and addressed, nothing more nothing less.
Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
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> it's easier to have a high-trust society if you eschew immigration. citation needed
You need a citation for you to understand people with similar customs/religious believes, similar dna have a higher trust society than a cities of unknown elements?
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> you are getting downvoted "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Is it boring reading about the meta or how something works. Understanding the inner workings of a system or society is something we can use as an outsider to the system.
Hearing that these opinions get downvoted helps explain why these comments were judged this way.
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#34The US chooses not to end homelessness. We have the highest GDP in the world. We could end it if we wanted to. I was in Japan recently. A choice was made there as well.
The US could end homelessness but would need to stop immigration and change the constitution which could force people in shelter. Not sure it's the outcome we all want.
Simpler than that: just roll back the restrictive zoning codes which have been making sufficient development infeasible for many years, thus creating a steadily growing housing deficit. When laws have turned the housing market into a game of musical chairs, someone is guaranteed to be left outside.
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#35> In the United Kingdom, for instance, people who had been living on the streets or in shelters were housed in individual accommodations in a matter of days. So it was always possible. We just didn’t care to do so.
And then we told ourselves it wasn't possible so we could sleep at night.
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you are getting downvoted "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Is it boring reading about the meta or how something works. Understanding the inner workings of a system or society is something we can use as an outsider to the system. Hearing that these opinions get downvoted helps explain why these comments were judged this way.
> Hearing that these opinions get downvoted helps explain why these comments were judged
HN greys and hides downvoted comments. The commentary adds nothing.
An analysis around why would have been interesting. It isn’t what that comment did. Nor what most comments complaining about downvoting do, for the simple reason that said comment is almost always stronger without the whining.
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#37The US chooses not to end homelessness. We have the highest GDP in the world. We could end it if we wanted to. I was in Japan recently. A choice was made there as well.
The US could end homelessness but would need to stop immigration and change the constitution which could force people in shelter. Not sure it's the outcome we all want.
There are 10 million empty homes [0] and ~700,000 homeless. No matter how you slice those numbers you still have more empty housing stock than homeless right now.
[0]: https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvspress.pdf (page 4)
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it's easier to have a high-trust society if you eschew immigration. citation needed
You need a citation for you to understand people with similar customs/religious believes, similar dna have a higher trust society than a cities of unknown elements?
Yes. It sounds right, but many subtly wrong things often do. At the very least, a measurement of the effect strength would be nice. For instance, is a homogenous society a stronger or weaker signal than GDP?
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#39The US chooses not to end homelessness. We have the highest GDP in the world. We could end it if we wanted to. I was in Japan recently. A choice was made there as well.
The US could end homelessness but would need to stop immigration and change the constitution which could force people in shelter. Not sure it's the outcome we all want.
> US could end homelessness but would need to stop immigration and change the constitution which could force people in shelter
Immigrants are a tiny fraction of the homeless [1]. And we’ve tried criminalising homelessness; incarceration is forced shelter and incredibly expensive.
Re: Finland's zero homeless strategy (2021)
#40In the article, I did not see anything about mental illness or addicts. How did FI solve for those people? Both groups have people who want to be homeless, so they can be left alone.
> Both groups have people who want to be homeless, so they can be left alone Why can't they be left alone in a home?
disruptive behavior
A working mom with a 2 year old doesnt want to live next door to violent actors and drug dealers.
More specifically, I think the US is unwilling to distinguish between lawful and unlawfully behaving poor, and segregate them accordingly when providing shelter.