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Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by inthebin »

master-lincoln wrote: post #74
hmcq6 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Kids that attended were not only coders, but musicians and artists as well. Creatives are Creatives. Don't reduce yourself as a programmer purely to a scientist. There is an art in what we do. Edit: if you disagree then tell me why I have a religiously strong opinion on spaces vs tabs

> Edit: if you disagree then tell me why I have a religiously strong opinion on spaces vs tabs Because you did not think this through logically I assume. There is only one answer: indent using tabs, align using spaces. This way the text never looks "broken" on any other machine, and personal preference for how deep indentations should be can be applied. I think people mostly form strong religious opinions because the…

Personally I don't think there is such a thing as "creatives". All humans are creative - that's what we do, we solve problems by coming up with solutions. Whether that is to create a painting, or coming up with a joke/punchline or writing a novel, or creating a product with code - that's a matter of aptitude/interest and environmental exposure.

Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by radioblahaj »

Hack Clubber here :)

I love Hack Club because it's truly one of the most radically kind & creative spaces on the internet. Before I found Hack Club, programming felt very solitary to me. It didn't really feel like it's something I could do with other people, yet alone myself. But since then I've found community, made friends, and pushed myself to build things I never knew I could make. Along the way, I've got to attend crazy hackathons like Outernet (which we ran on a campground in VT), and got to organize Canada's largest & biggest high school hackathon back in May (https://apocalypse.hackclub.com), and have all sorts of other adventures.

I'm really grateful for Hack Club :)

Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by aramsh »

Hack Club has absolutely changed my life, I live in a suburban area and there are not many people interested in tech but Hack Club has allowed me to find people like me. I’ve done things I’ve never thought I would do and it’s been such a great thing in my life.

Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by rhysmp »

mikeyouse wrote: post #76
ThinkBeat wrote: post #68

How is this all financed? The front-page talks about giving away "Get free Raspberry Pis, Framework Laptops, iPads, and more." Oh they do have transparency on it. I was confused about the "fiscal sponsorship" tab since it appears also to be a product they are selling at 7% of income. They appear to do well with nearly $6 million USD(?) in their "checking account) Good for them.

501c3 nonprofits can ‘fiscally sponsor’ projects that are too small for their own nonprofit but still need all the same legal/accounting/finance support. Some of that $6M in their checking account will ‘belong’ to the projects they are sponsoring. Basically like a nonprofit incubator.

I work at Hack Club on our fiscal sponsorship team and wanted to clarify something: each fiscally sponsored organization has its own account, with funds stored and represented separately on the HCB platform.

You can check out some of these nonprofits and their transparent finances at this link: https://hackclub.com/fiscal-sponsorship/directory/

Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by clacker-o-matic »

I helped develop hackatime (https://github.com/hackclub/hackatime/) this fall for our latest project high seas, and it's been a truly amazing experience. I'm 16, and I never thought I would be maintaining and operating a program with over 17 thousand users and 25 million+ rows! It's been a wild ride that I don't think I would have gotten without hackclub :) Also just in general the community is amazingly supportive; I joined a little over a year ago and I've made a ton of really amazing friends that I hope I can keep for the rest of my life ^_^

Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by gspencley »

inthebin wrote: post #81
master-lincoln wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Edit: if you disagree then tell me why I have a religiously strong opinion on spaces vs tabs Because you did not think this through logically I assume. There is only one answer: indent using tabs, align using spaces. This way the text never looks "broken" on any other machine, and personal preference for how deep indentations should be can be applied. I think people mostly form strong religious opinions because the…

Personally I don't think there is such a thing as "creatives". All humans are creative - that's what we do, we solve problems by coming up with solutions. Whether that is to create a painting, or coming up with a joke/punchline or writing a novel, or creating a product with code - that's a matter of aptitude/interest and environmental exposure.

While I sort of agree with you, I'm a software engineer with a background and hobbies in the arts. My wife and I are part time performing magicians, and I used to play various instruments in rock bands, I produced an indie album a few years ago etc. I'm saying this because I hang around people who are hyper-creative.

I compare those hyper-creative people to other people that I know and I work with and it becomes very apparent that what we tend to think of as "creativity" is not something that even the majority of people possess.

I definitely agree that everyone is "creative" to an extent within their respective interests and productive pursuits. But I think we might be conflating creativity with productivity. Everyone produces, or at least is capable of producing things. But what we tend to think of as "creativity" involves abstract thinking and piecing together things that are non-obvious.

In that sense, hackers and engineers do tend to often exhibit this form of creativity. I mean using something in a way that it was not original intended is an example of that "outside of the box" abstract thinking.

But my point, as anectodal as it is, in my 40+ years on this planet I've encountered far more people who are incapable of abstract thinking and coming up with novel ways to combine things than I have people who do possess this ability.

Now it might be a muscle, it might boil down to interests and personal ambitions. But, and I think you'd even agree with this, that's a hypothesis. I don't personally see evidence in support of that. The people who can't think abstractly are even some really decent programmers that I've met. They can produce shippable code and solve problems, but they can't think in terms of design patterns and abstractions... they need concrete examples for everything. The second you start to abstract a solution and talk in terms of generics you lose them. And I'm not putting them down, they're still great people to have on your team. Great work ethic and love what they do. They just can't think abstractly and are therefore not "creative" in the way that I interpret that word.

Re: We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

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Post by AdamEXu »

odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #70
MarcScott wrote: post #55

I recently supervised a Hackclub Counterspell event at our office. I was there only in the capacity of being an adult in the room, for health and safety and safeguarding reasons. The entire event had been organised by a single teenager, with mini workshops, hack time and a global show and tell. Kids that attended were not only coders, but musicians and artists as well. The whole event was amazing, with more pizza tha…

I will dive into the webpage a bit better later on, but at a glance I don't seem to be able to find how to 'help' as an adult. Would love to either organize or help something in my town. I could only find a slack channel to join but no other public info. Was this how you got in touch with them? Or did I miss something?

it's only organized by teenagers who are a part of hack club :) hack clubbers will then reach out to adults in their city for help organizing the event, but most of the work is done by the teenager.
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