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Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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The problem I have here is price. This just doesn't undercut an mbp, and it would have to to get me to buy it

Isn't the mbp pretty annoying for Linux? That's what I've heard, at the very least, and some of my friends have had trouble (at least on slightly older mbps--certainly not the new high-res versions).

Wireless is a problem on some (13' 2011 pro for example if I'm not mistaken). Not being able to remap the fn key is also extremely annoying.

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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A "developer edition" laptop with 1366x768 resolution?

I'm in the market for a new desktop monitor right now, and I'm finding it really difficult to find a 4:3 aspect ratio at a decent price. I'm not using the computer to watch movies, it's a PC, not a TV, and I value my vertical screen space. It seems the widescreen fad is pushing good old 4:3 out of the market. I'd pick a reconditioned one up, but I want HDMI input, rather than VGA...

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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A "developer edition" laptop with 1366x768 resolution?

I'm in the market for a new desktop monitor right now, and I'm finding it really difficult to find a 4:3 aspect ratio at a decent price. I'm not using the computer to watch movies, it's a PC, not a TV, and I value my vertical screen space. It seems the widescreen fad is pushing good old 4:3 out of the market. I'd pick a reconditioned one up, but I want HDMI input, rather than VGA...

I would rather recommend buying a 16:10 screen and rotating it 90 degrees. Works perfect for me.

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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Actually, most of new laptops do not work out of the box with Ubuntu 12.04 - you need to manually compile and/or install a custom Linux kernel in order to avoid hanging, as it is documented here: http://partiallysanedeveloper.blogspot.com/2012/05/ivy-bridg... and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2005305 . For some reason Canonical decided to sacrifice stability and focus on something most users don't th…

Couple of things - replace "majority of new" with "ivy bridge chipsets ". A lot of people actually buy sandy bridge or even AMD you know. Second, while I share somewhat common opinions on Unity, this particular example is a kernel bug. Most likely, ubuntu will backport those changes to 12.04 or has already provided a ppa for a newer kernel.

Well, I work at a Linux shop, and I don't know anyone who would buy an AMD laptop to run Linux on it. And it's been more than two months since IvyBridge release, so a laptop that runs SandyBridge is probably not technically new (it can be never used, but already morally old... :)

Yes, this is a kernel issue, already fixed in 3.3.x. But Canonical has no intention of backporting it to 12.04 (3.2 kernel). And we are talking here about "just working", not installing an unsupported kernel manually from a dev repository.

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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I'm wondering if these might be a better route than what Dell is proposing: http://zareason.com/shop/Laptops/

Thanks for this link - I have been searching for hardware along these lines for quite some time.

Don't forget System76. Their offerings are a bit slim at the moment since the line is being updated to Ivy Bridge:

https://www.system76.com/laptops/

Or Ohava:

http://www.ohava.com/openbook

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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Right now I'm on an x220. IIR I had some acpi driver issue--in fact, had to manually white list my model in it--and power management is mediocre, even with powertop. But it gets the job done decently enough.

I have x220i and I needed to fix mic mute button [1] and add a power management script [2] for saving power while on battery. I still get some graphics corruption with gpu accelerated chrome but it's not too common and I can live with it. It would be nice if Lenovo or Dell would check how well their laptops (or even some model) worked with linux and tried to get this kind of stuff as default on major distros. [1] htt…

It gets a little complicated. I got a Lenovo g560 with an Ath9k wireless card, and installed Fedora 14 on it and everything worked. I upgraded to Fedora 16 and everything worked except the wireless card. Apparently there is no way to tell the OS anymore that the wireless card is turned on. Filing bugs with Fedora and asking on the ath9k-devel email lists got no help at all.

What worked before no longer works. The card is permanently hardblocked. Supposedly the fix is to install Windows, flip the switch a few times, and then install Linux. I don't want it that badly. I will just figure out ndiswrapper.....

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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Right, but I think OS X is unix-y enough for most people.

Why do you think that? It lacks most of the killer features.

Once I've got homebrew or macports installed, I miss very little. What features do you find it lacking?

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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Why do you think that? It lacks most of the killer features.

Care to expand on that? Recall that Mac OS X is a certified UNIX, so I'm not sure what "unix-y" features it's missing.

GPL v3 great purge that Apple is doing in stages means that all UNIX-y software on Mac OS X, including shells, gcc etc are now ancient and will eventually be phased out altogether.

Re: Ubuntu is coming back to Dell Laptops

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The majority of new laptops work out of the box with ubuntu 12.04. The driver complaint, while still fair in many cases, is not nearly as relevant as it used to be. Peripherals can be tough, but built-in hardware has come a long way. Also, IMHO, weather dell is doing exactly what you want or not, they are continuing to support freedom of choice, freedom of software, and the hacker community in general. I commend them…

So, and I'm honestly curious here because I'm in the market, what is the best Linux laptop out there? I hear people swoon over a particular Lenovo/Thinkpad model, but have no idea which one it is.

I've got a Lenovo G770. Not particularly pretty but seems solid and has a nice big 17" screen for a decent price. I dual-boot Windows and Ubuntu without problems.
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