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Re: Visualizing All ISBNs

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The problem with such judgment is that they are subjective and subject to biases that change over time. Almost every scrap of information from ancient civilizations is considered priceless at this point because so few is left of it. Anything from obscene graffiti, shopping lists, personal messages, etc. All of it. Many autocratic regimes editorialize and censure all forms of publications. But even in the US, which is…

All action is "subjective and subject to biases that change over time". This would then imply I could never take any action, because it's just subjective and biased. Maybe that's an exaggeration of your position, but you do seem to be suggesting inaction or the impossibility of judgement. I reject this position 100%. I would suggest that judgement is a critical part of our civilization, and it's judgement that says t…

I don't think you're doing it on purpose, but this is Holocaust denial. The Nazis did destroy all extant copies of several works – for example, research of the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft. (Edit: Some Judaica were sent to Prague instead of being destroyed – though apparently Hitler's planned Judaism Museum is an urban myth.) They absolutely were trying to utterly destroy – not just symbolically reject – vast swathes of culture.

Please don't make stuff up about the Holocaust. It's the sort of mistake you shouldn't make even once.

Re: Visualizing All ISBNs

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Sturgeon's Law ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law ) states "90% of everything is crap" so you're not too far off.

This thread should've really summoned Jason Scott, I remember him causally mentioning that he has a backup of every single 4chan post ever made (99% crap in that case, but probably invaluable for future generations of sociologists/historians who want to piece back together where it all went wrong).

Re: Visualizing All ISBNs

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Well I guess your one valuable paragraph that matters only to you justifies backing up millions (billions?) of human and soon to be AI generated books, because someone, somewhere, at some time will find a line or two valuable. Maybe. I retract my position, let's back up everything!

I think that's the case. IIRC The British Library has copies of all published material in the UK, including flyers and such. What seems banal and useless to you, might be extremely important for future historians, and to be honest, books are pretty compressible and storage is cheap.

I think its a law in almost all nations in fact that forces publishers to sent a copy of everything they publish to a national archive like that (the US equivalent is the Library of Congress). If you bring up the topic of preservation, most people won't understand why, or even be opposed to the idea, goes to show that sometimes its a good idea to ignore the ignorant public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_deposit

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I don't think this page, which links to libgen and sci-hub, is that concerned about copyright.

annoying non-answer to my question. i already know all about anna's archive. i'm asking if a person can download these isbns and use them to make data visualizations without fear of breaking a law? https://software.annas-archive.li/AnnaArchivist/annas-archiv...

Sorry, I misunderstood your question.

Re: Visualizing All ISBNs

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Major efforts at creating "everything" libraries are usually looked upon as a positive effort that benefits all of humanity, and we generally mourn the loss of any such effort, regardless of whether the effort is against the laws of the state at the time the effort was undertaken, or even if the collection was created in a morally reprehensible way. See: Library of Alexandria, Library of Congress, GenBank, the Svalba…

No one is objecting to knowledge preservation - when you just preserve it instead of abundantly replicating it with a wink. Reasonable people are objecting to copyright law violation, for the simple reason that it disincentivizes further knowledge creation. Even more reasonable people are objecting to weaponizing copyright law violation on behalf of the vilest dictatorship on the planet.

> Reasonable people are objecting to copyright law violation, for the simple reason that it disincentivizes further knowledge creation.

Do you honestly believe that our current copyright framework is mainly aligned at maximizing incentives for knowledge creation?

This sounds absurd to me. From my point of view, the copyright framework has been shaped (by continous lobbying efforts) into a system to maximize extraction of profits from existing IPs.

That is very different from incentivizing "knowledge creation", because the lions share of income is spent on overhead or distributed to shareholders, with the "knowledge creator" (i.e. author), getting > weaponizing copyright law violation on behalf of the vilest dictatorship on the planet.

How is Annas archive weaponizing copyright violation? How is it furthering Putins interests?

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It's blocked at least in the Netherlands. Weirdly it mentions it being part of the sanctions against Russia, while from a cursory search I only found a judge ordering the site to be blocked because of copyright issues (thanks Brein). They probably just show the wrong error page?

I'm also in NL. Ziggo's DNS server blocks it: $ dig annas-archive.org @89.101.251.228 annas-archive.org. 360 IN CNAME unavailable.for.legal.reasons. unavailable.for.legal.reasons. 339 IN A 213.46.185.10 213.46.185.10 serves a generic page mentioning Russia Today and the Pirate Bay. Not sure which one applies here.

Same for KPN:

http://195.121.82.125/

Would Tweak have blocked this? Most households in the Netherlands currently have the choice of Ziggo, KPN, and Odido. Long live VPNs…

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> Possession or distribution of his books is still not allowed in Germany. AFAIK this has never been true in Germany (for the book Mein Kampf at least). AFAIK the German state of Bavaria inherited Hitler's copyright on the book, and did not republish it. This means that no one was allowed to print it for copyright reasons, but you could still own or trade existing copies of the book. After 2015, 70 years after Hitler…

It seems you are correct and I was only half right. Lets just say that quoting the man in public is still likely to get you in trouble. More than a few AFD politicians are finding that out the hard way.

And rightfully so. Germany has a peculiar history in this regard, and that implies a federal obligation to account for it.

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Anyone else seeing this? "This server couldn't prove that it's annas-archive.org; its security certificate is from *.hs.llnwd.net. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection."

Same for me

Re: Visualizing All ISBNs

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Anyone else seeing this? "This server couldn't prove that it's annas-archive.org; its security certificate is from *.hs.llnwd.net. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection."

Yes. A DNS request for annas-archive.org to my ISP (EE in the UK) returns an address for www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk, which also gives a security warning. If I click through the warning on either site I get an HTTP 400 error.

According to Wikipedia, www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk used to list the blocked domains and the court orders responsible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_th...

Re: Visualizing All ISBNs

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post #14

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It's blocked at least in the Netherlands. Weirdly it mentions it being part of the sanctions against Russia, while from a cursory search I only found a judge ordering the site to be blocked because of copyright issues (thanks Brein). They probably just show the wrong error page?

I'm also in NL. Ziggo's DNS server blocks it: $ dig annas-archive.org @89.101.251.228 annas-archive.org. 360 IN CNAME unavailable.for.legal.reasons. unavailable.for.legal.reasons. 339 IN A 213.46.185.10 213.46.185.10 serves a generic page mentioning Russia Today and the Pirate Bay. Not sure which one applies here.

> CNAME unavailable.for.legal.reasons.

Not really standards compliant, but an interesting use of DNS.

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