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Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4: Everything you need to know

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People were upset about Apple being forced to switch to USB-C, but just look at how the market moved on without them. Apple Lightening: 480 Mbit/s Thunderbolt 5: 120,000 Mbit/s

To be fair, most phones with USB-C are 2.0 only, which means they're limited to 480 Mbps.

Re: Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4: Everything you need to know

#15

People were upset about Apple being forced to switch to USB-C, but just look at how the market moved on without them. Apple Lightening: 480 Mbit/s Thunderbolt 5: 120,000 Mbit/s

Regardless of the fact that Apple’s laptops were shipping with Thunderbolt years before they were “forced” to add USB-C ports to iPhones, or that Thunderbolt and USB-C are orthogonal, Apple was involved in the creation of Thunderbolt in the first place.

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It's funny how everything is optional on the usb 4 features graph. Can you do 5 W and 1.1 Mbps and call it usb 4?

USB4 20 Gbps: Also known as USB4 Gen 2x2

USB4 40 Gbps: Referred to as USB4 Gen 3x2

USB4 80 Gbps: Known as USB4 Gen 4

USB4 Version 2.0 120Gbps

I guess if you're required to support 120Gbps on even cheap small electronics then USB 4 support doesn't make sense

Re: Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4: Everything you need to know

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post #6

It's funny how everything is optional on the usb 4 features graph. Can you do 5 W and 1.1 Mbps and call it usb 4?

USB4 20 Gbps: Also known as USB4 Gen 2x2 USB4 40 Gbps: Referred to as USB4 Gen 3x2 USB4 80 Gbps: Known as USB4 Gen 4 USB4 Version 2.0 120Gbps I guess if you're required to support 120Gbps on even cheap small electronics then USB 4 support doesn't make sense

Is this confusing naming scheme intentional?

Re: Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4: Everything you need to know

#18

If I could buy a 5k (retina) 120hz 27" monitor that would be endgame for me, I believe this finally has the bandwidth for that.

You’ve been able to do that with Thunderbolt 4 for a while (with Display Stream Compression) - I currently drive an 8k ultrawide (7680x2160, or two 4K side-by-side) at 120 Hz off a single Thunderbolt 4 port.

Re: Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4: Everything you need to know

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post #15

People were upset about Apple being forced to switch to USB-C, but just look at how the market moved on without them. Apple Lightening: 480 Mbit/s Thunderbolt 5: 120,000 Mbit/s

Regardless of the fact that Apple’s laptops were shipping with Thunderbolt years before they were “forced” to add USB-C ports to iPhones, or that Thunderbolt and USB-C are orthogonal, Apple was involved in the creation of Thunderbolt in the first place.

And yet they're still producing and selling iPhone 14 Plus 512GB on apple.com for £1000 in 2025 with USB2.0 speeds from the year 2000.

Re: Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4: Everything you need to know

#20

People were upset about Apple being forced to switch to USB-C, but just look at how the market moved on without them. Apple Lightening: 480 Mbit/s Thunderbolt 5: 120,000 Mbit/s

To be fair, most phones with USB-C are 2.0 only, which means they're limited to 480 Mbps.

Most phones sold, maybe, flagship phones had USB 3.x five years ago.
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