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Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by mrayycombi »

soulofmischief wrote: post #420
mrayycombi wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? Laws, social norms, peer pressure, karma moderators are ALL telling you what to do. The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. And natural selection applies to cultures, behavior (see reinforcement learning, selection of responses by consequences) etc. There is no freedom anywhere.

> People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? A planet where I can try to do anything I want, only stopped if what I am doing is being prevented by someone physically stopping me, such as an officer or concerned citizen. As per my post. > The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. https://ncse.ngo/defining-evolution > Initially, the L…

Your actions are controlled by their consequences, not cops.

You go to work, like everyone else. You are civil to people - because you choose - and keep your job.

Your freedom is a false illusion and can be boiled down to statistics, your zip code, age, IQ, etc.

Even your advocacy of uncaused agency is, itself, fully caused, reinforced, shaped and controlled.

And I never said evolution is exclusively a reference to natural selection- it's cache is due to the prestige of such ideas. Your sloppy usage and weak defense of such use doesn't prove anything.

I can police English if I am as free as you say I am. That's "my choice".

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by mrayycombi »

soulofmischief wrote: post #419
mrayycombi wrote: post #417

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Bosses exist because they will themselves into it. Bosses aren't invented by rational necessity. Bosses make themselves boss. There's no need for anarchism either.

If zem and I were in a room by ourselves, I don't think either of us would try to be "boss". Only once someone who supports such power structures, such as yourself, enters the picture, do we have to start protecting ourselves against such people. Have you read Lord of the Flies?

You may be right. You and Zem can live on an island in your anarchist utopia.

Back to reality there are more bosses everywhere your philosophical position won't wish out of existence.

You have a job, don't you?

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by soulofmischief »

mrayycombi wrote: post #421
soulofmischief wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People cant do what they want. What planet are you on? A planet where I can try to do anything I want, only stopped if what I am doing is being prevented by someone physically stopping me, such as an officer or concerned citizen. As per my post. > The only reason "evolution" is thrown around is bc of natural selection. To use evolution as a term is to imply it. https://ncse.ngo/defining-evolution > Initially, the L…

Your actions are controlled by their consequences, not cops. You go to work, like everyone else. You are civil to people - because you choose - and keep your job. Your freedom is a false illusion and can be boiled down to statistics, your zip code, age, IQ, etc. Even your advocacy of uncaused agency is, itself, fully caused, reinforced, shaped and controlled . And I never said evolution is exclusively a reference to…

All of that is so wildly off base and off-topic from the argument at hand: People can do what they want unless you or someone else physically stops them.

> I can police English if I am as free as you say I am.

You can try. How is that working out for you? Your original comment attempting to police language was flagged and died, looks to me like you were politely shown the door.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by soulofmischief »

mrayycombi wrote: post #422
soulofmischief wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If zem and I were in a room by ourselves, I don't think either of us would try to be "boss". Only once someone who supports such power structures, such as yourself, enters the picture, do we have to start protecting ourselves against such people. Have you read Lord of the Flies?

You may be right. You and Zem can live on an island in your anarchist utopia. Back to reality there are more bosses everywhere your philosophical position won't wish out of existence. You have a job, don't you?

I'm self-employed, and the existence of a top-down hierarchical power structure is not evidence that one is necessary. We're also now several straw mans away from the original argument.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by trogdor »

Joel_Mckay wrote: post #402
trogdor wrote: post #391

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Fair enough. I was referring to the Content ID system. >In general, the racketeers will ask for a fee whether they have rights to the IP or not. I make my living from YouTube and I have never heard of this. Can you point me to evidence of what you are referring to?

There are quite a few cases, but probably using a different search engine will help with citations: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/08/youtubes-new-lawsuit-s... https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-settles-lawsuit-with-allege... https://videogamelaw.allard.ubc.ca/2019/10/18/settlement-bet... Content ID is just as bad... if not worse... given no one checks for fair-use cases. A lot of old public-domain stock-footage wa…

You originally wrote that extortion of funds is an ongoing pervasive issue:

> In general, the racketeers will ask for a fee whether they have rights to the IP or not. They play the numbers counting on people not calling their bluff, and googles limited 3 strikes policy on channel publishers.

The three links you provided are all about the same, single, extreme case - from seven years ago - that ended with YouTube suing the person who was extorting money.

I still don’t think there is any evidence that extortion of money through abuse of notice-and-takedown is an ongoing pervasive issue.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas »

mrastro wrote: post #228
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #212

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How is this failing the most fundamental check: upload date ?

Generally a good idea, but there are edge cases that need to be handled for this to work. A copyrighted video might not be uploaded to YouTube, in which case you'd have to fall back on the video creation date, which would have to be manually added in their DB (e.g. Hollywood produced movies). You can also have leaks of videos before their official release. Admittedly a rare scenario that should can be accounted for i…

> A copyrighted video might not be uploaded to YouTube, in which case you'd have to fall back on the video creation date

Correct, but in this case we know there was no earlier video anywhere, so the only conclusion to draw is that they simply weren't checking the date at all. If the only "source" video being compared with the "offending" video had a newer upload date, the claim never should have been allowed to happen. If there's truly some external video with an earlier upload date, compare to that.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by KomoD »

pessimizer wrote: post #266
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #249

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I was surprised to see this here, because I remembered I recently added 3blue1brown on bsky: https://bsky.app/profile/3blue1brown.bsky.social ...but he only posted this to Twitter. Not his own blog, nor bsky, not to his Patreon, or to Reddit - only Twitter. Nitter is always just going to be an echo of Twitter. Discord and Reddit and HN and a personal blog serve different purposes. Bsky and Mastodon and the rest (incl…

> Nitter is always just going to be an echo of Twitter. Nitter is not going to be an echo of twitter, it was a proxy for twitter, and it's already dead. > Bsky and Mastodon and the rest (including Threads) are doomed to never become the next Twitter unless we can get people to start changing their habits. Why should anyone be concerned about that? None of the above have shown themselves to be any better stewards of a…

> Nitter is not going to be an echo of twitter, it was a proxy for twitter, and it's already dead.

It's not dead, xcancel runs on Nitter.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by KomoD »

pessimizer wrote: post #265
daveguy wrote: post #190

Just a friendly heads up. Anyone who wants to avoid Twitter, since it has become so toxic, can use the domain xcancel.com in place of twitter.com or x.com. like so: https://xcancel.com/3blue1brown/status/1876291319955398799 This links to independent Nitter to provide a full thread.

Not a great idea to post nitter links any more in public forums. The (very few) instances that are left are using small pools of private accounts, and get saturated to uselessness quickly. And especially to big forums like this, that have been known to take down fairly robust sites. Don't kill what's left of nitter in order to make a pointless statement about twitter being "toxic."

Xcancel has a pretty large pool, so does poast's instance.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by mrayycombi »

soulofmischief wrote: post #424
mrayycombi wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right. You and Zem can live on an island in your anarchist utopia. Back to reality there are more bosses everywhere your philosophical position won't wish out of existence. You have a job, don't you?

I'm self-employed, and the existence of a top-down hierarchical power structure is not evidence that one is necessary. We're also now several straw mans away from the original argument.

I assert that necessity is self created.

The Romans made themselves your boss. There was no "rational" necessity.

Bosses come into existence by will, not logic.

The world is irrational. Strawman are legitimate forms of persuasive argument, logic is for Spock.

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