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Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by kalleboo »

grecy wrote: post #181
zajio1am wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is still out-of-network healthcare (i.e. specific services or entire healthcare providers not covered by single payer) in many countries with universal healthcare. But it is usually clear which is which.

> There is still out-of-network healthcare in many countries with universal healthcare Can you provide links? I've personally used the healthcare systems in Australia and Canada for two decades each, and also for a short time in the UK. I've never heard of this.

There is a small handful of clinics in Japan that do not accept the universal health insurance, such as specialist ones targeting English-speaking expats.

Example: https://www.nmclinic.net/index.html#about

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Post by eviks »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #220
eviks wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But don't expect many people to pay to watch right? Why did you ignore the fact from the article that people do pay to watch (it's one of the most watched events in the world) it's just that that money doesn't reach the athletes? Not sure which pokemon represents that

once every four years (and that's if you're good enough to make it to multiple olympics) isn't going to pay the bills

This doesn't make sense as

1) it entirely depends on the prize and the financing infrastructure around it

2) athletes can participate in other competitions besides the Olympics

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Post by edu »

jalapenos wrote: post #205
datadrivenangel wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fencing is a really fun sport to watch. Fast, high energy, high skill. Also swords.

How it's done at the Olympics is dumb, and pales in comparison in entertainment value to say HEMA fencing, where they actually wield the original weapons, rather than running at each other with goofy floppy wand sticks.

I’m biased because I’ve practiced fencing for a long time, but you keep saying it’s dumb without explaining why.

First of all, which weapon do you refer to? Foil, epee or saber? They look quite different.

Saber is very fast and might look as you say, both fencers jumping quickly to each other to get their right of way and score. Epee looks quite different, there’s no right of way and the score target is the whole body, so it tends to be slower. Foil is in the middle in terms of speed, and much more technical.

IMO the issue with fencing is not that it looks “dumb”, but that it’s not easy to understand what is happening without knowing the rules. And then things happen fast.

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Post by Frieren »

jalapenos wrote: post #115

System working as designed? Like, if your hobby is throwing a disc as far as you can, have fun. But don't expect many people to pay to watch right? But people pay a whole lot to see nice bodies doing sexual stuff. So since money comes from what other people value, no need for a surprised Pikachu face.

> if your hobby

"Olympians" representing their countries.

- Is your hobby "to create software"? Then you should not be paid for it. - Do you like to help peolpe? Then you should not be paid for being a doctor. - etc.

Who should earn all the money then? The owners of the TV stations, the owners of the hospitals, basically the people that does nothing and just own things. What a dystopia of a world are we creating.

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Post by magxnta »

Frieren wrote: post #244
jalapenos wrote: post #115

System working as designed? Like, if your hobby is throwing a disc as far as you can, have fun. But don't expect many people to pay to watch right? But people pay a whole lot to see nice bodies doing sexual stuff. So since money comes from what other people value, no need for a surprised Pikachu face.

> if your hobby "Olympians" representing their countries. - Is your hobby "to create software"? Then you should not be paid for it. - Do you like to help peolpe? Then you should not be paid for being a doctor. - etc. Who should earn all the money then? The owners of the TV stations, the owners of the hospitals, basically the people that does nothing and just own things. What a dystopia of a world are we creating.

I represented my country in cycle ball as well. The thing is that nobody is really interested in that, similar to how nobody is interested in people throwing discs as far as possible. Just because you represent a country, it’s not necessarily interesting and people don’t have to get paid for it.

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Post by teractiveodular »

Frieren wrote: post #244
jalapenos wrote: post #115

System working as designed? Like, if your hobby is throwing a disc as far as you can, have fun. But don't expect many people to pay to watch right? But people pay a whole lot to see nice bodies doing sexual stuff. So since money comes from what other people value, no need for a surprised Pikachu face.

> if your hobby "Olympians" representing their countries. - Is your hobby "to create software"? Then you should not be paid for it. - Do you like to help peolpe? Then you should not be paid for being a doctor. - etc. Who should earn all the money then? The owners of the TV stations, the owners of the hospitals, basically the people that does nothing and just own things. What a dystopia of a world are we creating.

Creating software is an economically profitable activity that many people are willing to pay top dollar for. Throwing a disc really far by hand, not so much.

That said, the "hobby" angle is irrelevant here. As the article points out, the IOC makes an absolute fuckton of money from Olympic broadcast rights and sponsors, essentially none of which flows back to the actual athletes.

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Post by Symbiote »

jalapenos wrote: post #204
DontchaKnowit wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yo idk what youre talki g about with fencing. Its entertaining as hell

Olympic fencing is straight up dumb - they do the equivalent of immediately charging to their deaths with a goofy flexi-"sword". If you want some real entertainment in that area watch HEMA fencing.

Football could be described in similarly demeaning terms, it isn't a useful point.

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Post by tokioyoyo »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #164
unsupp0rted wrote: post #145

It's fine when Sports Illustrated does it- that's a legitimate publication that will subtly hide the most interesting bits and retain all the money from advertising and sales. When an athlete does it directly and retains the money themselves, that's a disgrace.

The content on the two content providers might be very different than what you expect.

Sports Illustrated has always been considered as a soft core porn magazine.

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Post by khafra »

nradov wrote: post #158
Y-bar wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who gets to choose which artists and athletes are funded? Preferably via UBI which would prevent cheating and inconsistencies and minimise the bureaucracy around it. > When do we start funding them? Smarter people than me have already answered this, but generally at 18 years of age or after graduation seems to be a common answer. > I have a 6yo son who is really good at doing various crafts and he really enjoys it,…

No actual smart people think that UBI is an effective answer to anything. The math simply doesn't work. Those claiming that UBI is the answer are either innumerate or are making ideological claims at odds with objective reality.

UBI would have an expense comparable to the entire current welfare state, which is a large part of the federal budget even in America--much larger than defense spending, for example.

However, GDP keeps going up, and many people would argue that "real" labor force participation keeps going down (e.g., bullshit service sector jobs, which mostly provide value to customers who want to feel superior to someone). At some point, UBI is going to be affordable; especially if it replaces most of the current welfare state.

Is there any other part of the math that simply doesn't work?

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Post by Vampiero »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #167
542354234235 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is weird that it seems like the people that are generating value and the people extracting value aren't ever the same people.

Information asymmetry has never played such a large role in income inequality as it does today. I’m really hoping people are empowered to use these artificial intelligence systems to level the playing field. No idea what the likelihood of this is to happening though.

As long as we use these awfully inefficient models, the probability is closer to zero than it is to one.
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