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Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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>If I appear to be moronic, self-centered, or sexist… it’s only because I am (I’m a guy). Still I believe my heart is in the right place, and unlike my head, hopefully it’s not in my pants.

What the hell? I feel like I'm watching a US TV commercial.

"Whoops honey, if I didn't have my sports cap on I'd probably lose my head."

"Oh dear, you lovable oaf." Mother and daughter shake heads at retarded male

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Right, this is just a call for something akin to affirmative action, which has had questionable results at best.

The onus here isn't on women. And the right solution is not to preferentially favor women in the tech field. What you'll end up with is a situation where asshole misogynists consider themselves even more justified in treating women in tech as second class citizens. This time because "they only got there through charity".

The solution is simple. People in tech need to treat other people in tech like human fucking beings, regardless of gender, race, or age. And more importantly, when we see people treating others based not on the quality of their work but on superficial qualities like gender, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, or what-have-you we need to call them out on it. Loudly. Publicly. Repeatedly.

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Women don't need to be "empowered". It's not some socieo-ecominic reason that's causing girls to steer clear of tech. It's been discussed here before many, many times and women have weighed in. According to them its the culture and insensitivity towards women thats causing skewed gender ratios.

This isn't a problem you can throw money at.

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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I would suggest that instead of affirmative action in funding women in startups, instead we should encourage successful women in tech to become evangelists. I don't think the issue is as much in the "nobody gives money to women who want to start startups" but rather in the fact that fewer women are in technology because of the cultural bias against it (and as a consequence, less women get funded startups).

Just think, if you are a teenager or college age girl, what women programmers do you currently look up to? They exist, but they need to be more visible to break the perception that "women don't become programmers"

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Right, this is just a call for something akin to affirmative action, which has had questionable results at best. The onus here isn't on women. And the right solution is not to preferentially favor women in the tech field. What you'll end up with is a situation where asshole misogynists consider themselves even more justified in treating women in tech as second class citizens. This time because "they only got there th…

I disagree. I don't see it as 'tokenism' or 'charity'. We are solving a big problem (gender-inequality).

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Right, this is just a call for something akin to affirmative action, which has had questionable results at best. The onus here isn't on women. And the right solution is not to preferentially favor women in the tech field. What you'll end up with is a situation where asshole misogynists consider themselves even more justified in treating women in tech as second class citizens. This time because "they only got there th…

I agree. You would also see resentment towards women founders from the guys who are pitching if startups are being picked based on the gender of the founders rather than quality.

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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post #7

Right, this is just a call for something akin to affirmative action, which has had questionable results at best. The onus here isn't on women. And the right solution is not to preferentially favor women in the tech field. What you'll end up with is a situation where asshole misogynists consider themselves even more justified in treating women in tech as second class citizens. This time because "they only got there th…

I agree. You would also see resentment towards women founders from the guys who are pitching if startups are being picked based on the gender of the founders rather than quality.

But that's just a transitional thing. Once you build a bigger more vibrant culture of women in IT, the artificial bias can be removed.

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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post #6

Right, this is just a call for something akin to affirmative action, which has had questionable results at best. The onus here isn't on women. And the right solution is not to preferentially favor women in the tech field. What you'll end up with is a situation where asshole misogynists consider themselves even more justified in treating women in tech as second class citizens. This time because "they only got there th…

I disagree. I don't see it as 'tokenism' or 'charity'. We are solving a big problem (gender-inequality).

Is it a problem that the nursing profession is dominated by women? If so, why?

Re: Women in Tech: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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post #5

I would suggest that instead of affirmative action in funding women in startups, instead we should encourage successful women in tech to become evangelists. I don't think the issue is as much in the "nobody gives money to women who want to start startups" but rather in the fact that fewer women are in technology because of the cultural bias against it (and as a consequence, less women get funded startups). Just think…

Women in this field who try to be more visible are prone to being labeled as superficial, attention-seeking, untalented (and much, much worse) terms [1]. Culture change is what is required.

[1]: http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/175064/forbes-c...

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