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Orca that carried dead calf for weeks appears to be in mourning again

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Post by xp84 »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #13
ridgeguy wrote: post #5

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The scientist M. Temple Grandin is known for her great contributions in the field of mitigating pre-slaughter animal panic. She is autistic. Her methodology included walking the chutes used to direct cattle to slaughter and working out in great detaiL mods that would reduce their stress. I've heard her interviewed a few times. She's extraordinary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin

Extraordinary? She invented a machine to hug cows before they get bolted in the head. We’d be better off not making animal slaughter the core of the American diet.

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Post by rafaelmn »

bamboozled wrote: post #19
Daub wrote: post #14

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As someone who has worked on farms i can verify that such things happen. I personally witnessed sheep behaving exactly as decided in The Silence of the Lambs. Our sheep were famously noisy and certainly were used to being moved around in lorries but when the abattoir lorry turned up you could almost smell their fear. I also witnessed a cow storm through four fences in order to be reunited with her calf. The irony: Th…

Why are the cows taken away from the calves, especially dairy cows? Just curious.

Because you want to get the milk.

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Post by honeybadger1 »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #9
ridgeguy wrote: post #5

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The scientist M. Temple Grandin is known for her great contributions in the field of mitigating pre-slaughter animal panic. She is autistic. Her methodology included walking the chutes used to direct cattle to slaughter and working out in great detaiL mods that would reduce their stress. I've heard her interviewed a few times. She's extraordinary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin

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Post by jeremyjh »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #13
ridgeguy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scientist M. Temple Grandin is known for her great contributions in the field of mitigating pre-slaughter animal panic. She is autistic. Her methodology included walking the chutes used to direct cattle to slaughter and working out in great detaiL mods that would reduce their stress. I've heard her interviewed a few times. She's extraordinary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin

Extraordinary? She invented a machine to hug cows before they get bolted in the head. We’d be better off not making animal slaughter the core of the American diet.

So here is a person who has reduced suffering for animals. And your idea is...what?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

Daub wrote: post #14
andy_ppp wrote: post #4

Yes, it made me think about animals panicking so much before slaughter that they often have heart attacks. And dairy cows who have their babies slaughtered who cry for weeks. Maybe these are apocryphal stories, but we are very much trained to believe we shouldn’t anthropomorphise animals. I hope that we are able to grow meat in a way without suffering as soon as possible.

As someone who has worked on farms i can verify that such things happen. I personally witnessed sheep behaving exactly as decided in The Silence of the Lambs. Our sheep were famously noisy and certainly were used to being moved around in lorries but when the abattoir lorry turned up you could almost smell their fear. I also witnessed a cow storm through four fences in order to be reunited with her calf. The irony: Th…

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Post by laidoffamazon »

xp84 wrote: post #20
hombre_fatal wrote: post #9

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Lions are quite dumb, Humans are very smart and can be vegan or vegetarian because of civilization and economic specialization.

Unrelatedly, elephants are quite a bit smarter than lions and herbivorous, as are many primates!

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Post by rednafi »

andy_ppp wrote: post #4

Yes, it made me think about animals panicking so much before slaughter that they often have heart attacks. And dairy cows who have their babies slaughtered who cry for weeks. Maybe these are apocryphal stories, but we are very much trained to believe we shouldn’t anthropomorphise animals. I hope that we are able to grow meat in a way without suffering as soon as possible.

It’s the same as how soldiers were trained to de-anthropomorphize their enemies.

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Post by Dalewyn »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #27
xp84 wrote: post #20

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Lions are quite dumb, Humans are very smart and can be vegan or vegetarian because of civilization and economic specialization. Unrelatedly, elephants are quite a bit smarter than lions and herbivorous, as are many primates!

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