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Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by DennisP »

dylan604 wrote: post #173
DennisP wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That might be the way to bet but casually mentioning a lawyer once worked for me on a used car warranty claim. I didn't make any threats, I just said "my mechanic says X and my lawyer says Y" and they said we'll call you back, which they did in ten minutes and said I was covered after all.

If that's actually what your lawyer says, then there's nothing wrong with that, but if you don't have a lawyer and they call your bluff, you're worse off than before you ran your mouth. So it's not really too much different than me telling about that one time I was in Vegas and I rolled a seven.

I had a buddy who was a lawyer, who spent a few minutes looking over the contract as a favor. There was no bet for them to call since I wasn't threatening action, just pointing out what the contract actually said (which my buddy confirmed for me).

It was under a thousand bucks so I could have just taken them to small claims court if they didn't fold. That may have worked in my favor.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by simoncion »

jdkaim wrote: post #7

Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…

> [The university will not defacto expel me at the end of the quarter if] I agree to work on a comparable solution for the university focused on solving the underlying problem I was building HuskySwap for. They would presumably own the IP and were clear that I wouldn’t be compensated. But it was implied that they would then remove the hold, allowing me to graduate.

Holy shit. Do you have this in writing? If you do, transfer the records to several places that YOU control... don't rely on University-controlled systems to keep this information safe.

If they relayed this to you verbally, and you are in a one-party-consent state, did you record the conversation?

If your report is reasonably accurate, they are absolutely NOT acting in good faith and absolutely WILL NOT act in good faith. If you have records of their statements, you should take those records to a lawyer and ask for advice.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by zeckalpha »

move-on-by wrote: post #163
eykanal wrote: post #140

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Just piling on here because upvotes are not visible. The one thing you can guarantee is that your good faith is not reciprocated by the university. Get a lawyer. To make it easier: it sounds like you're still registered. University of Washington offers Student Legal Services ( https://depts.washington.edu/slsuw/ ). Set up a referral with one of them and talk to them. Even if they're employees of the university and do…

It’s a funny thought, but looks like a nonstarter: > SLS cannot represent a student when the opposing party is another UW-Seattle, Tacoma, or Bothell student or UW entity.

They can have a conversation without being representation and should connect OP to someone who can represent them.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by int_19h »

impendia wrote: post #146
turbojet1321 wrote: post #139

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The head coach of football gets paid $4mil a year (4x the president) and is the highest payed employee. The top 7 staff are all sports related. Is this, like, common in the US? It seems batshit insane to an outsider.

Yes, this is extremely common. On the one hand, yes, this is absolutely batshit insane. On the other hand, college sports are enormously popular; football games regularly play to sold out crowds of over 50,000, and during football season there will be games on TV all weekend (not just local ones). They bring in a lot of revenue and publicity for the university -- and the latter (debatably?) helps attract students to…

It's batshit insane either way in the grand scheme of things. It just goes to show how market forces don't necessarily incentivize the things we actually want or need.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by School-Cotton »

OtomotO wrote: post #169
ericmcer wrote: post #62

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Are those numbers a sum of the total benefits or something? It seems insane that a campus security guard is making 170k.

It seems insane that you need campus security guards at all oO

Why?

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by hibikir »

chillfox wrote: post #120
darth_avocado wrote: post #56

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> They have a lot of time on their hands because there are so, so many people in administration. Not so polite take: most of them could be replaced by a 20 line shell script.

lolz. Having worked at a university your job isn't to get shit done. Your job is to make managers happy, usually by attending meetings, being knowledgeable, polite and always available. Your manager's job is to inflate headcount for the executives, so their empires grow and their ranking among other executives improves. People at the higher levels literally use words like empire and fiefdom (of x) to refer to departm…

Note that this isn't limited to universities: Larger headcount's make promotions easier everywhere. A modern trick is to hire remote workers from abroad: I might not need 5 people, but 5 remote devs from Mexico are much more affordable than 5 US employees, and they sure mean one can justify someone in the US that is already here becoming a dev lead.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by sitkack »

GrantMoyer wrote: post #88
jdkaim wrote: post #7

Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…

> I am not planning to get a lawyer involved as I have faith that UW leadership will make it right in the end. All evidence so far indicates they will not make it right, but instead they may make it even worse. Your faith is wildly misplaced. Seriously, talk to a lawyer. Keep in mind, just because you seek advice from a lawyer doesn't mean you need to take legal action against the school. Talking to a lawyer is not a…

Get a lawyer. Holding your degree hostage unless you work for them for free is off the charts ridiculous. They might have just paid for your entire education.

When I went to the UW I used Arexx and my 2400 baud modem to turbo register for classes the moment the system went live.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by DannyBee »

zeckalpha wrote: post #183
move-on-by wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a funny thought, but looks like a nonstarter: > SLS cannot represent a student when the opposing party is another UW-Seattle, Tacoma, or Bothell student or UW entity.

They can have a conversation without being representation and should connect OP to someone who can represent them.

No they can't have a conversation when they know of a non waivable conflict.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by metadat »

retrocryptid wrote: post #123

I manage university relations for our corporation and give money (though not very much) to have our corporate logo next to the Udub logo. I'm not sure this kind of misbehaviour reflects well on our brand. Do you have a contact at the university I can talk to?

Do you already have a contact who coordinates the payments? Seems like a better place to start, as they'll be the ones who might care.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Post by philpem »

greatgib wrote: post #121
jdkaim wrote: post #7

Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…

If you manage to have them tell you that in an email that will be the jackpot for you.

Confirmation emails are great for this.

"I was wondering if you could go over the details of the resolution we discussed on DATE? I'm giving it consideration and just want to make sure I fully understand. On reflection I feel like it could be a great opportunity. Could I put it on my resume'?"

Sometimes they stitch themselves up and it's glorious when it happens.

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