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Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…

If you manage to have them tell you that in an email that will be the jackpot for you.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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I was an EE student and worked for UW CSE back in the day, someone tried to do this back then as well and got very in trouble. There may have been some browser automation scripts about… I wouldn’t know.

I benefited from a UW CSE spot trade in like 2010 and didn't get in trouble for it at the time.

Yeah, a small amount of "organic" mischief isn't bad IMO, but it's problematic on a larger scale.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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I manage university relations for our corporation and give money (though not very much) to have our corporate logo next to the Udub logo.

I'm not sure this kind of misbehaviour reflects well on our brand.

Do you have a contact at the university I can talk to?

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Update: I immediately took down my class project site after receiving yesterday’s ultimatum. I still don’t think the simple demo site violated the letter or spirit of the registration rules, but I took it down because I always want to operate in good faith. They followed up today to thank me for doing it, but also indicated that they were putting a hold on my account anyway. As a result, I am not going to be able to…

I always thought that anything you create belongs to them in perpetuity. Stanford has the same rule which allowed them to own PageRank

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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> They have a lot of time on their hands because there are so, so many people in administration. Not so polite take: most of them could be replaced by a 20 line shell script.

lolz. Having worked at a university your job isn't to get shit done. Your job is to make managers happy, usually by attending meetings, being knowledgeable, polite and always available. Your manager's job is to inflate headcount for the executives, so their empires grow and their ranking among other executives improves. People at the higher levels literally use words like empire and fiefdom (of x) to refer to departm…

Weird. I work a university and we love our self-service and process automation. Could be that it's a land-grant university and we don't have an unlimited endowment to blow.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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Actually, they can't. Their job isn't to do whatever is on the description, their job is to give someone for their boss to have in his little fiefdom. Lord of the Shell Scripts doesn't ring as fun as having 20 employees, even if the shell scripts do more.

> their job is to give someone for their boss to have in his little fiefdom. In my friends' case, he didn't really want a little fiefdom or even to be a manager. The problem was that they made it clear that the only way to get promoted and move up the salary ladder was to become a manager of a team. So by converting his one-person role into a job that had to be done by several people, he could justify hiring a team u…

Yep, pay is directly tied to how many people are under you.

And it should be no surprise that this is how it works. The operational side is hired by the academic side which is even more crazy. It's made up mostly of people who have never had a job outside of school (they went to university and then never left) so it's high school drama all of the time.

Re: I had to take down my course-swapping site or be expelled

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I have several friends on the administrative side at Universities. The two things you have to realize is that there are an incredible number of administrative staff at Universities and they're extremely territorial. You rocked someone's boat and they got upset. They have a lot of time on their hands because there are so, so many people in administration. Now they're coming after you like it's their job. I think you'r…

In USSR there was a common saying that "the lower the position, the pettier the bureaucrat"

The English word petty derives from the French petit (small). So that's almost tautological.
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