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Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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《 And then, we will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer. We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.” 》 I guess they are building a saleforce at the expense of everything else !

That is that capitalist dream—all sales, no production expenses.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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post #7

《 And then, we will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer. We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.” 》 I guess they are building a saleforce at the expense of everything else !

That is that capitalist dream—all sales, no production expenses.

Ideally there would be no sales expenses either

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

#23
post #7

《 And then, we will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer. We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.” 》 I guess they are building a saleforce at the expense of everything else !

Put in AI to justify saving on support staff. Then hire more people to convince customers the AI is actually just as good as speaking to a real human...

It feels like mixed messaging about whether AI is actually good.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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If I were on the Salesforce BoD I wouldn't be impressed.

Let's see Benioff put his money where his mouth is, replace some C-suite seats with AI agents. Those are the really expensive salaries, and if AI is as smart as he claims it's downright reckless and negligent not to do this.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

#27

1. Salesforce will continue to hire engineers 2. The productivity gains of 30% are probably overstated, in a likely effort to try and sell their AI products

> The productivity gains of 30% are probably overstated

it maybe not, LLMs deliver clear value in coding tasks, but the thing is that competitors also will have gains, deliver more features, fixes and products.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

#28

There won’t be massive ai layoffs. Companies will just stop hiring

I think this is already happening, the monthly HN "Who's Hiring" threads have felt like attending a funeral since Microsoft-Google-Twitter mega-layoffs two years ago.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

#29
post #7

《 And then, we will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer. We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.” 》 I guess they are building a saleforce at the expense of everything else !

> we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI

This feels like one of those things where you're having to explain things so hard that it should give you a clue you're duping yourself. People don't get it? We just need more salespeople to explain it more. Gotta keep those KPIs up.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

#30

Wonder if this will include Heroku? And do they mean no more hiring at all, or just no new positions?

Heroku is still a thing? I would have figured their lunch would have been eaten years ago with how expensive they were.
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