One can imagine an IR monitoring (satellite or high flying drones like Reaper, one drone can see an IR source like a tank from 100km, so it would take just a few drones to monitor the the whole state for fires) with [almost] automated immediate dispatching of the fleet of drones (not small quadcopters, more like WWII size bombers) once the fire is detected. Would be much cheaper than having multi-billion dollar fires every year (these LA fires have already hit $50B as of today).
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Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#22With much of California, Texas and Florida property damage is concentrated where folks built where they shouldn’t have [1]. (At times nudged on by subsidised insurance [2].) Is that true in this case, too? (Being so close to LA, it doesn’t strike me that it could be.) If not, is my general thesis off? [1] https://www.npr.org/2023/11/06/1204923950/arizona-california... [2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article…
Your thesis is way off, and people didn’t understand climate back when these areas were settled. And really, we still don’t know how to or can’t politically manage wildfires well. Part of climate change is that this man-induced change is making previously hospitable areas much less so.
> people didn’t understand climate back when these areas were settled
Agree on Palisades. My original thesis is about new construction in Florida and Houston and in e.g. the middle of the California woods. That is settlement done when we did know the risks.
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#23With much of California, Texas and Florida property damage is concentrated where folks built where they shouldn’t have [1]. (At times nudged on by subsidised insurance [2].) Is that true in this case, too? (Being so close to LA, it doesn’t strike me that it could be.) If not, is my general thesis off? [1] https://www.npr.org/2023/11/06/1204923950/arizona-california... [2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article…
Deserts are generally uninhabitable by their very nature, but these persistent fires are primarily due to lack of proper underbrush care and other preventative measures. California fires are a classic case of "We tried nothing and we're out of ideas!" , speaking as a former Californian I honestly think the faster solution at this point is for enough of the state to burn down that pretending the problem doesn't exist…
> Deserts are generally uninhabitable by their very nature
Deserts don’t have wildfires. (EDIT: They do!)
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#24JPL would be a national loss. I hope it doesn't come to that. Stay safe, SoCal folks!
No joke. I hope these days it's more spread out and backed up, but at one point they did a lot of phyical archiving related to space exploration there, including huge amounts of transparencies.
I hope nothing will be damaged! Those are priceless treasures.
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#25Some coworkers had to evacuate. One of them was woken up last night by their doorbell camera sending multiple alerts because of the high winds.
I hope everyone gets to safety.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's working fine.
https://downfor.io/ssd.jpl.nasa.gov
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Deserts are generally uninhabitable by their very nature, but these persistent fires are primarily due to lack of proper underbrush care and other preventative measures. California fires are a classic case of "We tried nothing and we're out of ideas!" , speaking as a former Californian I honestly think the faster solution at this point is for enough of the state to burn down that pretending the problem doesn't exist…
> Deserts are generally uninhabitable by their very nature Deserts don’t have wildfires. (EDIT: They do!)
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#28Map of evacuation zones: https://protect.genasys.com/Search?z=9.689266971108566&latlo... Looks like 3 independent fires?
Yep, 3 separate fires. The first in West LA blew up late yesterday afternoon and blew through a bunch of residential areas by the looks of it. From watching Flight Radar, it seems to be getting most of the air resources, although that could just be because wind conditions are favorable on that fire today. The second fire near Pasadena started yesterday as well, but really blew up overnight. The third fire up North I…
I saw a video of of it burning down down houses and commecial building Altedena, unlike newscasts where the lip flappers are blabbing over everything you could hear the wind howling and see streams of embers blowing down the street and overhead.
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#29One can imagine an IR monitoring (satellite or high flying drones like Reaper, one drone can see an IR source like a tank from 100km, so it would take just a few drones to monitor the the whole state for fires) with [almost] automated immediate dispatching of the fleet of drones (not small quadcopters, more like WWII size bombers) once the fire is detected. Would be much cheaper than having multi-billion dollar fires…
Re: LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed
#30Some coworkers had to evacuate. One of them was woken up last night by their doorbell camera sending multiple alerts because of the high winds. I hope everyone gets to safety.
Friend of mine had to evacuate and then watched his house burn down on the news.