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Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy call remote work a 'Covid-era privilege.'

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Post by magic_smoke_ee »

drannex wrote: post #3

Which was highly successful, allowed for more productivity (the human species, like others, has performance gains when in comfortable and safe environments not befouled by exaggerated social animosities and fake niceties), aided those in marginalized (GSM, disabled) communities to complete work at the same level of interaction with others, and showed that most in-the-office activities are useless and hurts workers em…

There are additional, multiple, overlapping and competing pressures:

- Commercial real-estate owners pressure on tenant corporations to utilize buildings, which then pass it on to their employees

- Pressure to use their owned real-estate

- Investor and peer pressure for corporate management to do what everyone else is doing

- Control through compliance

Re: Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy call remote work a 'Covid-era privilege.'

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Post by hilux »

bdangubic wrote: post #18
hilux wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second paragraph – you might have a point, but to be fair, the same could be said for pretty much every person in high office. (In other words: what's your control?) Even as a liberal, what bugs the heck out of me is that almost no Democratic politician/functionary has ever worked in the private sector in any meaningful way. How can they understand anything about the way the business world works, or should work?…

Even as a liberal, what bugs the heck out of me is that almost no Democratic politician/functionary has ever worked in the private sector in any meaningful way. How can they understand anything about the way the business world works, or should work? Answer: they don't. the role of a government and role of a business have little in common and should seldom-to-never be mixed together. hence businessman should never be…

Let's say for the sake of argument that you agree with me that the US should not become a completely state-controlled economy like the former Soviet Union.

However, our private-sector economy is regulated by laws.

Do you want the lawmakers who regulate business to have no idea how business works? Because that's what we get with the Dems. And people who have never worked in business, who have never started or run a business, just don't grok what makes sense or doesn't make sense for businesses to succeed.

Re: Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy call remote work a 'Covid-era privilege.'

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Post by bdangubic »

hilux wrote: post #22
bdangubic wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even as a liberal, what bugs the heck out of me is that almost no Democratic politician/functionary has ever worked in the private sector in any meaningful way. How can they understand anything about the way the business world works, or should work? Answer: they don't. the role of a government and role of a business have little in common and should seldom-to-never be mixed together. hence businessman should never be…

Let's say for the sake of argument that you agree with me that the US should not become a completely state-controlled economy like the former Soviet Union. However, our private-sector economy is regulated by laws. Do you want the lawmakers who regulate business to have no idea how business works? Because that's what we get with the Dems. And people who have never worked in business, who have never started or run a bu…

so this is a political thing? “thats what you get with Dems??”

people who run businesses and start businesses should stay the F out of the government. government is by the people and for the people, businessman (especially ones that currently bought their way into politics for a couple of years) do not give two shits about people, only themselves and absolutely nothing else ever

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Post by qbxk »

drannex wrote: post #3

Which was highly successful, allowed for more productivity (the human species, like others, has performance gains when in comfortable and safe environments not befouled by exaggerated social animosities and fake niceties), aided those in marginalized (GSM, disabled) communities to complete work at the same level of interaction with others, and showed that most in-the-office activities are useless and hurts workers em…

i think it's "toe the line" ie, put your foot right where they told you to, follow rules rigidly

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Post by hilux »

bdangubic wrote: post #23
hilux wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say for the sake of argument that you agree with me that the US should not become a completely state-controlled economy like the former Soviet Union. However, our private-sector economy is regulated by laws. Do you want the lawmakers who regulate business to have no idea how business works? Because that's what we get with the Dems. And people who have never worked in business, who have never started or run a bu…

so this is a political thing? “thats what you get with Dems??” people who run businesses and start businesses should stay the F out of the government. government is by the people and for the people, businessman (especially ones that currently bought their way into politics for a couple of years) do not give two shits about people, only themselves and absolutely nothing else ever

Unless you want to live in a country that has no private sector (i.e. the state controls all media, all manufacturing, all stores and markets, all restaurants, all transportation, ... ), be careful what you wish for.

Re: Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy call remote work a 'Covid-era privilege.'

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Post by f1shy »

hilux wrote: post #25
bdangubic wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so this is a political thing? “thats what you get with Dems??” people who run businesses and start businesses should stay the F out of the government. government is by the people and for the people, businessman (especially ones that currently bought their way into politics for a couple of years) do not give two shits about people, only themselves and absolutely nothing else ever

Unless you want to live in a country that has no private sector (i.e. the state controls all media, all manufacturing, all stores and markets, all restaurants, all transportation, ... ), be careful what you wish for.

That is not (by far!) what the person you are replying to said! That is a straw man fallacy at its best!

Re: Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy call remote work a 'Covid-era privilege.'

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Post by drannex »

qbxk wrote: post #24
drannex wrote: post #3

Which was highly successful, allowed for more productivity (the human species, like others, has performance gains when in comfortable and safe environments not befouled by exaggerated social animosities and fake niceties), aided those in marginalized (GSM, disabled) communities to complete work at the same level of interaction with others, and showed that most in-the-office activities are useless and hurts workers em…

i think it's "toe the line" ie, put your foot right where they told you to, follow rules rigidly

You would be correct - I would blame autocorrect to save face here, but that would be a total lie. I had never really thought (and perhaps ever said that) before, so learned something new. Sometimes the most obvious is what sneaks past.
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