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The video is wild - Waymo support apparently struggles to remotely control the car.
these things need to have a giant E-STOP button accessible to the passengers otherwise they should simply be banned
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these things need to have a giant E-STOP button accessible to the passengers otherwise they should simply be banned
Absolutely not. While that might sound like a safety feature it can also be extremely unsafe. Imagine letting a passenger in a car use the e-brake at any time. It's a tricky problem.
Alright, I'm imagining. Seems extremely sensible, especially in an AI-operated vehicle.
Much of the world (the US being an outlier) puts passenger-facing emergency breaks in every carriage of passenger trains.
So the guy is in the car and he's concerned about catching his flight but when the operator asks him to do something in the waymo app he doesn't want to do it. Could it be that he'd rather keep filming for internet notoriety than stop filming and actually solve his problem?
Could it be that Waymo should just be able to stop the car? It doesn't seem at all ridiculous to you that he is already on the phone with them, and then they just read the script to tell him to pull out his phone and fire up the app? Just what I want is to ride in a car with Comcast level of customer service.
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> If they had an actual kill switch I'm unfamiliar - we have these in train cars, did the architects behind driverless techshit not think it was necessary?
Train cars? As in the vehicle on a track where an immediate stop is almost never more dangerous?
And yes, passengers should absolutely be able to bring their vehicle to an immediate stop. It's an "emergency break"! Of course you need an emergency break in an autonomous car! What exact alternative are you proposing for when you're in an AI-operated car hurtling under the chassis of a white truck that it failed to detect in snow conditions?
It seems like an incredibly obvious and basic legislative requirement for self-driving cars to have some kind of immediate manual break for emergencies. I'm kind of shocked that that apparently isn't the case now?
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"…the operator asks him to do something in the waymo app he doesn't want to do it." Why are you trying to offer an excuse for the inexcusable? The app should have nothing to do with it. Where are the emergency stop and exit controls for the passenger? He should be able to exit the vehicle at any time. I fed up with this bad tech and the fact that governments let Big Tech act irresponsibly to get away with this shit.…
Jail time? This poor man was forced to slowly circle around a parking lot eight times! It took over five minutes before they fixed the problem! He almost missed his flight! Outrage, outrage. This is clearly worthy of the electric chair.
The real problem these days is that the culprits who perpetrate this shit are able to hide behind corporate walls—at worst the company gets fined (albeit rarely) but those who are actually responsible escape both freely and anonymously. Laws need to be changed to make employees directly accountable for their actions and to take the consequences.
Unfortunslely, introducing such laws is somewhat complicated and would meet with huge resistance for many reasons too involved to list here. Nevertheless, there's one I should mention, sometimes unavoidable mistakes occur (or important facts remain unknown) even after due diligence and rigorous testing. Laws should not hold individuals responsible for force majeure† (so-called acts of God) that they have no control over. Any change in the law would have to allow for this.
That said, we know damned well that that provision/exception is totally irrelevant in most of these cases/customer unfriendly fuck-ups, clearly they're as guilty as hell.
I'd advocate another change in the law in that shareholders need to be identifiable. We need a way of publicly embarrassing and shaming shareholders when they invest in 'carpetbagger' companies. To avoid shame investors who invested in good faith would be left with little option than to divest themselves of their shares. In effect, shareholders have to share the responsibility for a company's bad behavior and be seen doing so.
Mind you, I can't see this happening anytime soon, as many shareholders are just too greedy to allow laws like this to come into effect. Unfortunately, the political will just isn't there.
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† A classic example of where hubris, cocksureness, cost cutting and insufficient engineering rigor — AND force majeure led to a disaster was the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. If engineering rigor had been followed to the letter and penny-pinching avoided then it's likely the bridge wouldn't have collapsed despite force majeure entering the scene (the physics of Kármán vortex street turbulence was not well understood at the time).
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There's a Pull Over button that will stop the vehicle. He was "not immediately aware" of it and "did not have an opportunity to use it."
edit: there's a small blurry one that plausibly could be it at the very end of the video. ~you can see in the video that it's not showing that button on the screen though.~
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What's mayhem is humans driving. This is downright calm by comparison. Inconvenient, sure, but it's not Mad Max, he's just slowly circling. He didn't even miss his flight.
Yeah totes fake drama. Like 90% of our news. Even the weather is like all drama "atmospheric cyclone tsunami" and ends up as light rain with some flooding, like last year.
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edit: there's a small blurry one that plausibly could be it at the very end of the video. ~you can see in the video that it's not showing that button on the screen though.~
It is a little blurry, but the icon for pull over appears to be visible at 1:41 on the screen at the bottom.