Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model

Post by jeromegv » Tue, Jan 07, 2025, 11:52 PM UTC

insane_dreamer wrote: post #594

rapatel0 wrote: post #579

So lets take one of the most expensive, labor intensive parts of our business and replace it with crowdsourced notes. As of 2022, Meta employed 15000 content moderators. Expected salary of 70K to 150K per person (salary + benefits, plus consulting premiums) so lets assume 110K. This implies $1.65B in workforce costs for content moderation. Meta is more likely to make their earnings.... Though I wonder if they will re…

Again, conflating moderation within Meta, with fact-checking by third party orgs, which is what this is primarily about. In reading the comments, it's clear to me that "community-based fact-checking" will not work since not even HN users can get basic facts straight (not due to any lack of intelligence, probably just didn't read the article or understand the context), how do we expect the FB userbase to do so?

Post by jeromegv » Tue, Jan 07, 2025, 11:53 PM UTC

jarsin wrote: post #133

philjohn wrote: post #22

They've also said there will be more harmful (but legal) content on there as they'll no longer automatically look for it, but require it to be reported before taking action. As someone who worked on harmful content, specifically suicide and self injury, this is just nuts - they were raked over the coals in both the UK by an inquest into the suicide of a teenage user who rabbit holed on this harmful content, and also…

I've already seen disturbing stuff on X since Elon took over that I never would have seen when it was twitter. They don't even show the warning "this might be harmful content" on images and videos anymore. The X algo seems to go haywire every couple of days and dumps a bunch of this crap in my feed until I block 20+ bluecheck accounts showing this crap. I believe it's only going to get worse going forward as they all…

Post by throwaway69123 » Tue, Jan 07, 2025, 11:55 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #590

lr1970 wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ideological bits are: ... Should we expect Meta doing 180 degrees u-turns every 4 years when another party wins US Presidential elections?

Only when the incoming party has threatened going after anyone who was against them with criminal charges.

Post by pona-a » Tue, Jan 07, 2025, 11:56 PM UTC

Seattle3503 wrote: post #491

> As a result, we’re going to start treating civic content from people and Pages you follow on Facebook more like any other content in your feed, and we will start ranking and showing you that content based on explicit signals (for example, liking a piece of content) and implicit signals (like viewing posts) that help us predict what’s meaningful to people. We are also going to recommend more political content based…

Post by throwaway69123 » Tue, Jan 07, 2025, 11:58 PM UTC

nxm wrote: post #26

donohoe wrote: post #2

From bad to worse. Meta is probably one of the single largest funders of fact checking. Now that appears to be coming to an end. Third parties will no longer be able to flag misinfo on FB, Instagram or Threads in the US. This is not good imho.

Who was checking the fact checkers, when they were wrong quite often?