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Re: Battle Scenes depicted in moving pictures before CGI

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Post by ssklash »

dotancohen wrote: post #28
trickyager wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're bringing up subjective beliefs as a straw man. The idea that it's morally wrong to eat meat or burn carbon are subjective. I specifically said objectively incorrect beliefs. The idea that there exist races of humans who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true.

The idea that there exist species who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true. Every species on Earth fulfills a purpose, and humans have no right to farm any of them. It is objectively better for humans to return to pre-agricultural levels of population and eat only what we catch with our bare hands. Of course, I don't believe that stat…

Can you take your very thinly-veiled racism apology elsewhere?

Re: Battle Scenes depicted in moving pictures before CGI

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Post by Clamchop »

daseiner1 wrote: post #19
pavlov wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely you have to draw a line somewhere, though? Adolf Hitler was a painter and Kim Il-Jong directed movies. Neither of them was any good, but if they had been, would it really make sense to judge their art in isolation, without the slightest mention of the authors’ tyranny and mass murder? Griffith made movies that he fully intended as Ku Klux Klan propaganda. That is not in doubt. At the same time these movies are…

Well, an obvious line is that the political views of political figures are more relevant than their hobbies.

The director in question was using his profession to peddle racist ideology. I don't think you're being consistent here.

Re: Battle Scenes depicted in moving pictures before CGI

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Post by dotancohen »

ssklash wrote: post #31
dotancohen wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that there exist species who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true. Every species on Earth fulfills a purpose, and humans have no right to farm any of them. It is objectively better for humans to return to pre-agricultural levels of population and eat only what we catch with our bare hands. Of course, I don't believe that stat…

Can you take your very thinly-veiled racism apology elsewhere?

I am not being racist. I am demonstrating that our values are not "objectively correct".

Maybe someday a society that celebrates diversity in physical attributes will have preferred professions for those from races recognized to run faster, or jump higher, or father, or swim, even for individuals that do not particularly excel. And they might think us barbarians for ignoring all this beautiful diversity in human form and ability.

Re: Battle Scenes depicted in moving pictures before CGI

#35

Post by daseiner1 »

ssklash wrote: post #30
daseiner1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would. I'm not advocating white-washing here. My point is that this piece is not about artist biographies. For this sort of piece, I don't care if he was a serial adulterer, a volunteer fireman, or a local hero, and think that inserting those details is an unnecessary thumb on the scale.

I'm not sure why you think your personal opinions about mentioning that a well-known racist was in fact a well-known racist matter, and why you think you have some sort of say in another person's blog post. This "scale" that you think the author is putting their thumb on does not exist. They are writing on their own personal website.

This is a discussion site, which has a comment section. My initial comment, which I think was quite even-handed, has generated discussion. My personal opinions matter just as much as yours or any other user on this site, which in the grand scheme of things is "not at all". I have just as much of a right to comment on this post. Ignore me if you'd like.

But fine, I'll bite.

To temporarily eschew the equanimity that I think I've thus far demonstrated, I'm not at all surprised to find that you have chosen the "shut the fuck up" response to commentary you find distasteful. Folks of your temperament, left/right/& center, invariably land there when one of their sacred cows is held up for examination.

Re: Battle Scenes depicted in moving pictures before CGI

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Post by trickyager »

dotancohen wrote: post #28
trickyager wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're bringing up subjective beliefs as a straw man. The idea that it's morally wrong to eat meat or burn carbon are subjective. I specifically said objectively incorrect beliefs. The idea that there exist races of humans who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true.

The idea that there exist species who are uniquely "superior" or "inferior" is an objectively incorrect belief. It is not true now, and it has never been true. Every species on Earth fulfills a purpose, and humans have no right to farm any of them. It is objectively better for humans to return to pre-agricultural levels of population and eat only what we catch with our bare hands. Of course, I don't believe that stat…

Except you once again substituted race, the topic of conversation, with something else. We're not discussing the differences between species. We're discussing racist beliefs which are testable, falsifiable, and have been proven incorrect. The mental gymnastics you're performing to claim a relativist position about RACISIM is very telling.

Re: Battle Scenes depicted in moving pictures before CGI

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Post by cybercity »

buildsjets wrote: post #38

How about a space battle scene with and without CGI? Compare "The Dam Busters" from 1955 with propeller airplanes to "A New Hope" with X-wings, title says 1977 but I think this is one of the enhanced editions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdb03Hw18M

WW2 fighters in space has always seemed really weird scifi to me. If we ever fight wars in space it will be done by computers trying to out maneuver eachother over millions of miles.
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