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Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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OpenAI doesn’t make any profit. So either it dies or prices go up. Not to mention the privacy aspect of your own machine and the freedom of choice which models to run

> So either it dies or prices go up. Or efficiency gains in hardware and software catchup making current price point profitable.

Training data gets mired in expensive and they need constant input otherwise the AI‘s knowledge is outdated

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I'm looking at my Jetson Nano in the corner which is fulfilling its post-retirement role as a paper weight because Nvidia abandoned it in 4 years. Nvidia Jetson Nano, A SBC for "AI" debuted with already aging custom Ubuntu 18.04 and when 18.04 went EOL, Nvidia abandoned it completely without any further updates to its proprietary jet-pack or drivers and without them all of Machine Learning stack like CUDA, Pytorch et…

Is there any recent, powerful SBC with fully upstream kernel support? I can only think of raspberry pi...

rk3588 is pretty close, I believe it's usable today, just missing a few corner cases with HDMI or some such. I believe that last patches are either pending or already applied to an RC.

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>> The IBM Roadrunner was the first supercomputer to reach one petaflop (1 quadrillion floating point operations per second, or FLOPS) on May 25, 2008. $100M, 2.35MW, 6000 ft^2 >>Designed for AI researchers, data scientists, and students, Project Digits packs Nvidia’s new GB10 Grace Blackwell Superchip, which delivers up to a petaflop of computing performance for prototyping, fine-tuning, and running AI models. $3000…

Digits is petaflops of FP4, roadrunner is petaflops of FP32. So at least a factor of 8 difference, but in practice much more. (IE I strongly doubt digits can do 1/8th petaflop of FP32) Beyond that, the factors seem reasonable for 2 decades?

> roadrunner is petaflops of FP32

Isn't it actually FP64?

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The bigger picture is that OpenAI o3/o4.. plus specialized models will blow open the doors to genome tagging and discovery, but that is still 1 to 3 years away for ASI to kick in.

While I kinda agree with you, I don't think we will ever find a meaningful way to throw genome sequencing data at LLMs. It's simple too much data. I've worked in a project some years ago where we were using data from genome sequencing of a bacteria. Every sequenced sample was around 3GB of data and sample size was pretty small with only about 100 samples to study. I think the real revolution will happen because code…

Just use a DNA/genomic language model like gLM2 or Evo and cross-attention that with o3 and you’re golden imo.

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I feel this is bigger than the 5x series GPUs. Given the craze around AI/LLMs, this can also potentially eat into Apple’s slice of the enthusiast AI dev segment once the M4 Max/Ultra Mac minis are released. I sure wished I held some Nvidia stocks, they seem to be doing everything right in the last few years!

Did they say anything about power consumption?

Apple M chips are pretty efficient.

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If you're expecting this device to stay relevant for 4 years you are not the target demographic. Compute is evolving way too rapidly to be setting-and-forgetting anything at the moment.

Eh? By all indications compute is now evolving SLOWER than ever. Moore's Law is dead, Dennard scaling is over, the latest fab nodes are evolutionary rather than revolutionary. This isn't the 80s when compute doubled every 9 months, mostly on clock scaling.

Indeed, generational improvements are at an all time low. Most of the "revolutionary" AI and/or GPU improvements are less precision (fp32 -> fp16 -> fp8 -> fp4) or adding ever more fake pixels, fake frames, and now in the most recent iteration multiple fake frames per computed frame.

I believe Nvidia has some published numbers for the 5000 series that showed DLSS off performance, which allowed a fair comparison to the previous generation, on the order of 25%, then removed it.

Thankfully the 3rd party benchmarks that use the same settings on old and new hardware should be out soon.

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I'm pretty frugal, but my first thought is to get two to run 405B models. Building out 128GB of VRAM isn't easy, and will likely cost twice this.

You can get a M4 Max MBP with 128GB for $1k less than two of these single-use devices.

I read the Nvidia units are 250 Tflops vs the M4 Pro 27 Tflops. If they perform as advertised i'm in for two.

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The developers they are referring to aren’t just enthusiasts; they are also developers who were purchasing SuperMicro and Lambda PCs to develop models for their employers. Many enterprises will buy these for local development because it frees up the highly expensive enterprise-level chip for commercial use. This is a genius move. I am more baffled by the insane form factor that can pack this much power inside a Mac M…

How does it run 400B models across two? I didn’t see that in the article

Not sure exactly, but they mentioned linking to together with ConnectX, which could be ethernet or IB. No idea on the speed though.

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It's annoying I do LLMs for work and have a bit of an interest in them and doing stuff with GANS etc. I have a bit of an interest in games too. If I could get one platform for both, I could justify 2k maybe a bit more. I can't justify that for just one half: running games on Mac, right now via Linux: no thanks. And on the PC side, nvidia consumer cards only go to 24gb which is a bit limiting for LLMs, while being ver…

The new $2k card from Nvidia will be 32GB but your point stands. AMD is planning a unified chiplet based GPU architecture (AI/data center/workstation/gaming) called UDNA, which might alleviate some of these issues. It's been delayed and delayed though - hence the lackluster GPU offerings from team Red this cycle - so I haven't been getting my hopes up. Maybe (LP)CAMM2 memory will make model usage just cheap enough th…

Grace + Hopper, Grace + blackwell, and discussed GB10 are much like the currently shipping AMD MI300A.

I do hope that a AMD Strix Halo ships with 2 LPCAMM2 slots for a total width of 256 bits.

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