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Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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And copyright doesn’t give the ability to fight any of that is the point. This all sounds like abuse of DMCA process.

Pretty sure if someone is misusing your company logo, they’re violating both copyright and trademark, among other things. I’m not a lawyer though.

Depends on the logo. If it's just text or a simple shape, it can't be copyrighted.

3Blue1Brown's logo is (probably) copyrightable, but the TED or Veritasium channel logos are (probably) not. If it could be claimed to be derivative of some other work, public domain or not, you may not fully own the copyright either. In general, it can be a big fuzzy grey area that needs a court to decide fully. Meanwhile, a trademark infringement would be easy to show.

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A random company is able to claim copyright infringement for one of the most beloved YouTube channels. WTF is going on at Google and Youtube?

Good morning, isn’t it? This goes for years, happens to every youtuber from time to time. And if they are tiny and have no creators community, they often just swallow the “demonetization” fact.

Demonetisation isn't so bad (i.e. copyright claims). Copyright strikes kill the channel after 3 in a row within a month or so.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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This company is basically an extreme nobody and has like 1-3 likes on their posts. It is absurd how imbalanced the power is with regard to automation and copyright strikes.

There's nothing absurd about it, our society is not built about making people with a lot of likes comfortable, it's built around making people who own stuff comfortable.

You don't really need to own much to initiate a bogus copyright strike, so I don't know how that's relevant.

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Barratry law does cover this. I eagerly wait for the day a lawyer is censured for violating their oath with this BS.

misdemeanor. up to 1k fine. if even exists in your state. so toothless also.

The point is to besmirch their record with the bar association.

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Hypothetically, would it be possible to create a legal entity to make claims against ones own videos, as a shell protection against bogus claims?

That's the purpose of limited liability companies.

That's not quite what I mean. Being a llc doesn't help you within the Youtube Content ID system. What I'm wondering is could you have a second entity you control make claims against your own videos - or do claims stack. i.e.: Would you still be vulnerable to vexatious claims from a third party.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Just a friendly heads up. Anyone who wants to avoid Twitter, since it has become so toxic, can use the domain xcancel.com in place of twitter.com or x.com. like so: https://xcancel.com/3blue1brown/status/1876291319955398799 This links to independent Nitter to provide a full thread.

I don't think using the service alternately is a good idea. Just don't use it. Twitter has always been known for being toxic. Now the baby troll leads it .. I could never sell my soul like that. Just don't use any social media. You'll be more healthy and secure.

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If a farmer stops showing up to a farmers market, no one is going to go to their farm for their specific carrots when there are other carrot farmers at the market. Even if they have the best carrots, that doesn't mean their carrots are sufficiently better to justify the added hassle. If their livelihood comes from the customers at the farmer's market, they need to keep their stall at the market.

Sure. This aligns with my original point. A farmer owns their land (mostly). The farm is the farmer's canonical source for their product. Farmers don't typically rely on a single farmer's market to sell their product, they participate in many markets, sell wholesale, sell from their farm, and might also have a direct-to-consumer option where they can ship beyond their locality. Create once, publish everywhere — your…

No, it goes directly against your original point. A farmer owning their own land is no protection against losing access to its customers.

In this analogy, there is only one farmer's market that anyone shows up to. In the real world many farmers may have alternatives, but that is a product of an entire industry spending centuries collectively cultivating those multiple distribution channels.

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The intro of the movie makes it pretty clear that their premise is "IQ is heritable, and stupid people have more kids." It's not a coincidence that the "high IQ" couple is portrayed as wealthy and the "low IQ" people are shown as poor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCsR_oSP2Q

Thank you. It's astonishing to me how few people remember the text of this movie -- it is so clearly saying dumb people are breeding, smart people are not.

It seems the dumb interpretation of the movie is spreading faster than the correct and literal one.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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> not a Content ID claim. That is my understanding too. We do not have a disagreement on that. > he got a copyright strike, which means a DMCA takedown Here is where we disagree. A youtube copyright notice / copyright strike is not the same as a DMCA takedown. The DMCA takedown process as described in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act Title II. Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act provides more r…

> A youtube copyright notice / copyright strike is not the same as a DMCA takedown. Yes it is. YouTube doesn’t magically get to ignore the DMCA, so their process is built around that (along with layering Content ID on top to allow for a middle ground where videos can stay up but redirect some or all monetization to the copyright holder). If you click through the link I posted above, you’ll get to this page which show…

Does YouTube's system also make a malicious complainer liable for damages? The DMCA does. Here's the relevant section of the law mentioned by krisoft:

(f) Misrepresentations.—Any person who knowingly materially misrepresents under this section— (1) that material or activity is infringing, or (2) that material or activity was removed or disabled by mistake or misidentification, shall be liable for any damages, including costs and attorneys’ fees, incurred by the alleged infringer [...]

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/title17.pdf

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Isn't this very strong evidence in favor of a thesis that HN hates? That the most important networks (like YouTube) ought to be decentralized? Unfortunately, a strike in favor of the blockchain people — the best of which have been working to find ways to keep systems permanently decentralized (and not just temporarily decentralized, like Bluesky/Nostr/Mastodon/SMTP/etc.).

A genuine question: can you clarify what you mean by temporarily decentralized? Seeing SMTP lumped in the same category as Bluesky made me realize I don't know what you mean. The best argument in your favor is that Gmail captured 80% market share. Or that hosting your own mail server is a full-time job. However, this doesn't mean email isn't decentralized.

Email is ostensibly a decentralized system. But in its real-world use, it is centralized both at the application layer and at the protocol layer.

At the application layer, email clients (like the Gmail or iOS email app) are typically bundled with a reliance on centralized email hosting (running the mail server) and relying on their centrally-controlled name (@gmail.com, @icloud.com, etc.). This in turn gives the app developers significant leverage against the protocol layer, since they completely control how their users (through their app) interact with the protocol layer.

At the protocol layer, email relies heavily on a de facto reputation system, since any valuable and truly decentralized and permissionless system will have an abundance of spam. The reputation system is used to filter spam and isolate bad actors. This is why running a home email server is not really what this is about: it's about who you need to rely on to have your emails delivered.

The challenge isn't designing a protocol without reliance on any single actor. What's difficult is designing a protocol that can avoid becoming de facto centralized when critical features (like spam prevention, registration, etc.) need to be filled in by agents outside of the protocol.

The crypto people recognize this and that's why they want to build the economics explicitly into their protocols (a critically important part of any protocol; all protocols without exception have economic components whether one recognizes this or not). This is also why they emphasize global consensus and more.

Hacker News and others hate blockchains because they see the scams (which happen in all permissionless systems, and they are even more obvious when the financial components nakedly visible). Yet HN laments when the properties of decentralization that they love and value are lost for seemingly mysterious reasons ("dead internet theory", "enshittification"). The truth is that the reasons are right in front of us.

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