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Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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Post by Cumpiler69 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #270
Cumpiler69 wrote: post #92

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How big is that market you claim? Local LLM image generation already exists out off the box on latest Samsung flagship phones and it's mostly a Gimmick that gets old pretty quickly. Hardly comparable to gaming in terms of market size and profitablity. Plus, YouTube and the Google images is already full of AI generated slop and people are already tired of it. "AI fatigue" amongst majority of general consumers is a doc…

> Gaming fatigues is not. It is. You may know it as the "I prefer to play board games (and feel smugly superior about it) because they're ${more social, require imagination, $whatever}" crowd.

The market heavily disagrees with you.

"The global gaming market size was valued at approximately USD 221.24 billion in 2024. It is forecasted to reach USD 424.23 billion by 2033, growing at a CAGR of around 6.50% during the forecast period (2025-2033)"

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Post by rsynnott »

mrtksn wrote: post #74
noduerme wrote: post #72

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"garden hermit" is a very interesting and evocative phrase. Where is that from?

It's a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_hermit In the past, in Europe, some wealthy people used to look after of a scholar living on their premises so they can ask them questions etc.

> The one at Painshill, hired by The Hon. Charles Hamilton for a seven-year term under strict conditions, lasted three weeks until he was sacked after being discovered in a local pub

I mean, fair. Very bad hermit-ing.

(Terry Pratchett has a fun parody of this in one of the Discworld books; the garden hermit gets two weeks' holidays a year, which he spends in a large city.)

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Post by mocheeze »

a_bonobo wrote: post #192

There's a market not described here: bioinformatics. The owner of the market, Illumina, already ships their own bespoke hardware chips in servers called DRAGEN for faster analysis of thousands of genomes. Their main market for this product is in personalised medicine, as genome sequencing in humans is becoming common. Other companies like Oxford Nanopore use on-board GPUs to call bases (i.e., from raw electric signal…

Doesn't seem like Illumina actually cares much about security: https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/01/widely-used-dna-seq...

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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Post by adolph »

diggan wrote: post #267
paxys wrote: post #260

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The text on the screen is an obvious giveaway.

Damn, you're right. I didn't even consider looking at the monitor itself as "They can't be so lazy they don't even use a real screenshot" while faking the rest kind of makes sense, otherwise you need a studio setup. Never underestimate how lazy companies with a ~$3 trillion market cap can be.

Lazy? This is Nvidia eating their own dogfood. They put in lots of work to get to the point where someone can call it "lazy."

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Post by magicalhippo »

henearkr wrote: post #189

It's based on Mediatek CPU cores, so I am really pessimistic about their open source support... I'm bracing for a whole new era of unsufferable binary blobs for Linux users, and my condolences if you have a non-ultramainstream distro.

The press release[1] says it's using NVIDIA's Grace CPU[1], as well as this:

MediaTek, a market leader in Arm-based SoC designs, collaborated on the design of GB10, contributing to its best-in-class power efficiency, performance and connectivity.

I assume that means USB and such peripherals is MediaTek IP, while the Blackwell GPU and Grace CPU is entirely NVIDIA IP.

That said, NVIDIA hasn't been super-great with the Jetson series, so yeah, will be interesting to see what kind of upstream support this gets.

[1]: https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-puts-grace-blackwe...

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Post by com2kid »

moralestapia wrote: post #222
Karupan wrote: post #29

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I’m not so sure it’s negligible. My anecdotal experience is that since Apple Silicon chips were found to be “ok” enough to run inference with MLX, more non-technical people in my circle have asked me how they can run LLMs on their macs. Surely a smaller market than gamers or datacenters for sure.

Yes, but people already had their Macs for others reasons. No one goes to an Apple store thinking "I'll get a laptop to do AI inference".

Tons of people do, my next machine will likely be a Mac for 60% this reason and 40% Windows being so user hostile now.

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Post by Havoc »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #216
Havoc wrote: post #207

Can one game on it? If one can skip buying gaming rig with a 5090 with its likely absurd price then this 3k becomes a lot easier for dual use hobbyists to swallow Edit 5090 is 2k

It is not made for gaming and the form factor says a lot. With this being an option for AI there is less of a need to buy tons of nvidia RTX GPUs. The 5090 surprised me with the two slot height design while having a 575W power budget.

It’s certain not its primary use, but it may still work well - powerful modern GPU anyway. And that may be enough that want to use it for gaming as secondary use

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Post by Filligree »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #180
anonylizard wrote: post #91

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There's a titanic market with people wanting some uncensored local LLM/image/video generation model. This market extremely overlaps with gamers today, but will grow exponentially every year.

> There's a titanic market with people wanting some uncensored local LLM/image/video generation model. No. There's already too much porn on the internet, and AI porn is cringe and will get old very fast.

> No. There's already too much porn on the internet, and AI porn is cringe and will get old very fast.

I needed an uncensored model in order to, guess what, make an AI draw my niece snowboarding down a waterfall. All the online services refuse on basis that the picture contains -- oh horrors -- a child.

"Uncensored" absolutely does not imply NSFW.

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

saagarjha wrote: post #119
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #70

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Where can you find 99c/hour? Cheapest I can find is double that.

Lambda has on-demand GH200 right now for $1.49. There might be a cheaper deal elsewhere for a contract.

Weird that they have cheapest H100 for $2.49. It should either be shared GH200 or it could just a promotional price.

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Post by rbanffy »

nimish wrote: post #264
rbanffy wrote: post #233

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This is something every company should make sure they have: an onboarding path. Xeon Phi failed for a number of reasons, but one where it didn't need to fail was availability of software optimised for it. Now we have Xeons and EPYCs, and MI300C's with lots of efficient cores, but we could have been writing software tailored for those for 10 years now. Extracting performance from them would be a solved problem at this…

1000% all these ai hardware companies will fail if they don't have this. You must have a cheap way to experiment and develop. Even if you want to only sell a $30000 datacenter card you still need a very low cost way to play. Sad to see big companies like intel and amd don't understand this but they've never come to terms with the fact that software killed the hardware star

> Sad to see big companies like intel and amd don't understand this

And it's not like they were never bitten (Intel has) by this before.

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