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Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model

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Zuck claims "Europe has an ever increasing number of laws,institutionalizing censorship and making difficult to build something innovative" Ouch. As a European, I feel very wary of such a sentence and the implications. Time for Europe to wake up ? (edit: fix typos)

We are awake. We should decouple ourselves from the tech giants on the other side of the pond. They don't have our best interests in mind.

Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model

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post #48

They've also said there will be more harmful (but legal) content on there as they'll no longer automatically look for it, but require it to be reported before taking action. As someone who worked on harmful content, specifically suicide and self injury, this is just nuts - they were raked over the coals in both the UK by an inquest into the suicide of a teenage user who rabbit holed on this harmful content, and also…

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> And why aren't you considering the countervailing harm to society of centralized moderation?

Are there reproducible studies showing that? What is the effect size?

(These objections go both ways!)

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Zuck claims "Europe has an ever increasing number of laws,institutionalizing censorship and making difficult to build something innovative" Ouch. As a European, I feel very wary of such a sentence and the implications. Time for Europe to wake up ? (edit: fix typos)

Europe has anti-nazi laws for .. historical reasons.

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post #21

If you think this move exists in a vacuum or is actually about "getting back to their roots with free speech", you're wrong. Alongside Dana White joining the board[0], it's clear that this is solely about currying favor with the incoming administration. [0] https://www.npr.org/2025/01/06/nx-s1-5250310/meta-dana-white...

Just like complying with government censorship demands was about currying favor with the outgoing administration.

Like this!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-tru...

> When the White House called up Twitter in the early morning hours of September 9, 2019, officials had what they believed was a serious issue to report: Famous model Chrissy Teigen had just called President Donald Trump “a pussy ass bitch” on Twitter — and the White House wanted the tweet to come down.

Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model

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post #48

They've also said there will be more harmful (but legal) content on there as they'll no longer automatically look for it, but require it to be reported before taking action. As someone who worked on harmful content, specifically suicide and self injury, this is just nuts - they were raked over the coals in both the UK by an inquest into the suicide of a teenage user who rabbit holed on this harmful content, and also…

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Enjoy: https://www.nsrf.ie/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Harmful-impac...

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post #48

They've also said there will be more harmful (but legal) content on there as they'll no longer automatically look for it, but require it to be reported before taking action. As someone who worked on harmful content, specifically suicide and self injury, this is just nuts - they were raked over the coals in both the UK by an inquest into the suicide of a teenage user who rabbit holed on this harmful content, and also…

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Are we arguing that graphic images of suicide and self injury are required for open discourse?

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know that this announcement is made to win favor with Trump. I would not expect that leftism will be any more allowed

I agree. At the very least, it's using Trump as cover. That said, if they remove the political filter, they're opening the door for all discussion (even from the left). Of course, they could surreptitiously filter out the left. Hell, why not?

That's my guess as to what they intend to do.

Just moving the needle for allowed content to include transphobia and racism.

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post #57

They've also said there will be more harmful (but legal) content on there as they'll no longer automatically look for it, but require it to be reported before taking action. As someone who worked on harmful content, specifically suicide and self injury, this is just nuts - they were raked over the coals in both the UK by an inquest into the suicide of a teenage user who rabbit holed on this harmful content, and also…

This exactly mirrors my thoughts, although I don't work in your field. One quote: "For example, in December 2024, we removed millions of pieces of content every day. While these actions account for less than 1% of content produced every day, we think one to two out of every 10 of these actions may have been mistakes (i.e., the content may not have actually violated our policies)." That is first order data and it's in…

Indeed.

The human cost of a piece of content being taken down depends on the piece of content, and the reason behind posting it.

In the case of someone posting about recovery from self injury and including a photo of their healed self-harm scars, having that taken down by mistake would be more harmful than someone who posted a cartoon depiction of suicide for the lolz.

Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model

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post #21

If you think this move exists in a vacuum or is actually about "getting back to their roots with free speech", you're wrong. Alongside Dana White joining the board[0], it's clear that this is solely about currying favor with the incoming administration. [0] https://www.npr.org/2025/01/06/nx-s1-5250310/meta-dana-white...

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